Hi Clemens, First of all, thanks for your feedback. It helps a lot.
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Clemens Klein-Robbenhaar <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi devs, > > as I recently played around with the DW on a fresh install instead of a > migration, I figured out the "Cancel" button does not what I guess most users > expect it to do. There has been some debate about the Cancel and Skip buttons and you're not the only one considering them misleading. I also agree, but I haven't seen seen / heard alternatives that are much better. > > With a fresh install when there are no pages in the wiki, choosing "cancel" > leaves one with a completely empty wiki where one cannot do anything, > especially not > login to import ones custom set of pages. > If one really has a custom set of pages, probably one is experienced enough > to know about the "superadmin" account. > (Even then one might expect from earlier version that it is possible to > upload an initial XAR without having to log in, and be confused when it is > not there.) It was documented in the release notes as this is an important change in XWiki 5.1. See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki50#HPublicaccessonanemptywikidoesnotreceiveadminrightanymore . > > Unfortunately unexperienced users, who might just know the "standalone" > HSQL/Jetty distro with their pre-installed pages, might be confused when they > set up XWiki > "the right way". The typical reaction when being confused is to press the > "Cancel" button, which normally is the "get me out of here" way to fix things > if some unexpected > dialog pops up. I guess I'm the only one naive enough to think user read the messages displayed on dialogs. I added the "If you want to perform the install manually then ..." message hoping it will reduce the confusion. > However in the installation process this is exactly what an unexperienced > user should *not* do. At most "skip" is the right option, if the user really > wants to see how the wiki > looks without UI. > > I wonder if instead of "Cancel" a stronger word like "Abort" should be used. > Or maybe if pressing "Cancel" at install time one should get a javascript > alert saying "If you > choose this option you will have to activate the "superadmin" user in the > config file, as no default admin user will be installed, and the wiki will be > nearly useless without." > (message should appear only in case of a fresh install, i.e. if there are no > pages in the DB, of course). This is a good idea. > > Additionally maybe it is helpful to color the button red instead of blue. > (Well, maybe this is even all that needs to change to keep newbies from > pressing that button). Are you sure it's blue? http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/DistributionWizard#HDWonaCleanInstall it's a secondary button so it's definitely not blue. I think red is too much. Thanks again, Marius > > Cheers, > Clemens > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
