On 16 May 2014 at 13:04:37, Marius Dumitru Florea
(mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, vinc...@massol.net wrote:
> > Hi Andre/everyone,
> >
> > On 9 May 2014 at 07:35:54, Andreea Popescu
> > (andreea.pope...@xwiki.com(mailto:andreea.pope...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >> I’m writing this e-mail because I want to propose supporting Internet
> >> Explorer 10 and Internet Explorer 11 on 6.x cycle.
> >>
> >>
> >> First of all, it’s known that Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9
> >> are still widely used by users, but many of them are currently choosing to
> >> update to IE10 and IE11. According to netmarketshare.com (Browsers ->
> >> Desktop Share by Version) from a total of 100%, IE10 is used by 6.85% users
> >> and IE11 by 16.61% users. It’s true that IE10 is not as popular as the
> >> older versions (IE8 - 20.85% and IE9 - 8.89%), but its usage percentage is
> >> still significant.
> >>
> >>
> >> Second of all, both versions (IE10 and IE11) have some problems rendering
> >> our content sometimes, and you will see that below:
> >>
> >>
> >> IE10 known problems (unfixed) reported on JIRA:
> >>
> >> 1. XWIKI-10269: Table edit: pressing enter inserts new line in a
> >> different table cell
>
> >> 2. XWIKI-10299: The last annotation for a word isn’t displayed on IE10
> >> 3. XWIKI-10300: If a text has multiple annotations after removing one of
> >> them the text looks like isn’t annotated on IE10
>
> Minor. I don't think uses add multiple annotations on the same piece
> of text (they can reply to the annotation/comment instead).
>
> >> 4. XWIKI-10192: The "Username" and "Password" input fields don't have
> >> the same size
>
> Minor too.
>
> >>
> >> IE11 known problems (unfixed) reported on JIRA:
> >>
> >> 1. XWIKI-9933: When you press "Alt+C" in IE11 (cancel edition) in edit
> >> wiki mode, the wiki session is canceled, but it also appears the "View
> >> favourites, feeds and history" option
> >> 2. XWIKI-9787: Jump to a page using CTRL+G doesn’t work
> >> 3. XWIKI-10192: The "Username" and "Password" input fields don't have
> >> the same size
> >>
> >> Last but not least, since December - January I’ve been testing IE10 and
> >> IE11 (smoke tests or full tests) and their biggest problems were with
> >> WYSIWYG (you can see that on: XWIKI-9698, XWIKI-10282 and XWIKI-10283).
> >>
> >>
> >> So, what do you think?
> >
> > I agree that we need to officially support IE10/11. We’ve been waiting too
> > long for that aready.
> >
> > Actually we started doing this for XWiki 5.4.x and we fixed all issues we
> > knew at that time for IE10/11.
> >
> > However we’ve had some regression in XWiki 6.0-SNAPSHOT because we upgraded
> > the GWT version we were using and that caused issues. I’ve seen that Marius
> > has fixed some issue already for the WYSIWYG: XWIKI-9698, XWIKI-10282 and
> > XWIKI-10283.
> >
> > So I’m +1 to start officially supporting IE10/11 and add them to
> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy (which
> > I’ve updated with a netmarketshare report).
> >
>
> > @Marius: you’re probably the one who’s done most of the browser support so
> > far. Is it going to be a problem to support IE8, 9, 10, 11 at once (in term
> > of workload)?
>
> IE has become a lot more standards compliant in its recent versions so
> supporting IE10 and IE11 should be less difficult for us that it was
> to support IE6, 7 and 8. On the other hand, I think we should apply
> the same strategy we have for the other browsers: support only the
> latest version. See
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy .
>
> So I think the XWiki *community* should support only IE11. Private
> companies, like those listed on
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support#HProfessionalSupport
> can of course offer support for older versions of IE, but that is
> their business.
That would make sense from the angle of applying the same strategy for all
browsers but I don’t think this is what matters. What matters in the end is the
userbase we’re going to support officially in XWiki.
And looking at the browser stats, the reality is the one on the graph at
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy:
- IE8: 21% share
- IE11: 14%
- IE9: 9%
- IE10: 8%
- Chrome 33: 6%
- FF 27: 5.3%
Thus I think we have to support IE8, 9, 10, 11…
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
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