Hi,

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jean SIMARD <[email protected]> wrote:

> As far as I know, Mac can be either case sensitive or case insensitive
> (just
> need to choose how you format your disk)*.
>
> So we could do the same on XWiki and propose to choose between case
> sensitive
> and case insensitive at the installation (a variable in
> xwiki.properties)?  I'm
> not against a case insentivity by default if I can switch it later.
>

Yes, indeed, but I would not call that "configurable", since it involves
formatting your drive and choosing a filesystem that supports case
sensitive/insensitive names.


>
> * I have a Mac at home and mine is case sensitive but I configured it 2
> years
> ago.  I don't know if, in the last 2 years, Apple decided to remove this
> choice
> between case sentivity and case insensitivity.
>

At least for recent Mac computers, they come with a case insensitive FS by
default. This options is also recommended in their documentation, for
example when erasing and reinstalling your OSX:
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH18869 (Yosemite) or
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243 (Mavericks), etc.

Thanks,
Eduard


>
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 12:03:14PM +0100, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
> > Hi Edy,
> >
> > thanks for your message. From a forward-looking standpoint, I 100% agree
> > with you that switching XWiki to case-insensitive would be a good thing
> to
> > do. I've seen others (as well as myself) be lost because they were going
> to
> > .../xwiki/bin/view/Main/Xyy instead of .../xwiki/bin/view/Main/XYY and
> > vice-versa. If we were to make the decision today, I can't see a good
> > reason why not to go case-insensitive, especially when targeting business
> > users.
> >
> > However we're not starting from a blank slate. There might be (I don't
> know
> > that there is, but there might be) legitimate use cases for a page named
> > "Xyy" vs a page named "XYY", both in the same wiki. I'd like to have a
> > better idea of the consequences of this change, as well an analysis of a
> > public site such as xwiki.org to see whether this could be causing
> > unforeseen and other unexpected issues. In other words: what could go
> wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Guillaume
> > ᐧ
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi users and devs,
> > >
> > > I would like to have your opinion on the topic of case sensitive vs
> case
> > > insensitive and which one you prefer in XWiki.
> > >
> > > Currently, XWiki is case sensitive. This means the same resource name
> > > (document name, space name, etc) can be written with either small
> letters
> > > or big letters or a mix.
> > >
> > > Examples: You can have both "Main.Test" and "Main.test" as 2 different
> > > documents. Also, you can have "XWiki.Admin" and "XWiki.admin" as 2
> > > different users. This also applies to URLs, as "/Main/Test" is
> different
> > > from "/Main/test" or "/main/test", so all these 3 are different
> resources.
> > >
> > > Even from this short description, one can already identify possible
> > > problems of this approach.
> > >
> > > From the top 3 operating systems (Linux, Mac an Windows), only Linux is
> > > case sensitive, the other two (more user-focused Operating Systems) are
> > > both case insensitive.
> > >
> > > Since XWiki has one of its main targets the Enterprise users, it is
> safe to
> > > assume that the correct approach would be to also be more user-focused
> and
> > > simplify things and avoid confusions by being case insensitive as well.
> > >
> > > Also, a quick search on existing issues validates the need for this
> > > improvement:
> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=text%20~%20%22case%20insensitive%22
> > >
> > > What do you think? Is it OK to keep XWiki case sensitive, or would you
> > > prefer it case insensitive? Bring arguments.
> > >
> > > I have also created a jira issue for this idea:
> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11412 to track it in the future.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eduard
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