On 23 Oct 2015 at 13:10:09, Eduard Moraru ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
> IMO, the App bar is not very reliable nor scalable solution. Sure, it looks > nice in the vanilla distribution because we have a handful of apps, but > once the admin starts installing more, it does not scale. To fix that, the > admin would edit the list of displayed apps and limit it to a smaller set, > but then the additionally installed apps will no longer be discoverable by > the users if we plan to stop showing them in the documentsTree as well. > > What would be nice would be to have a "more applications" button in the app > bar for regular users as well, that would lead them to a page with a > livetable of installed apps that they can use (which are not necessarily > listed in the app bar nor in the documentsTree macro). Yep I definitely agree and I think we’ve already agreed about this in the past (there might even be a jira issue; if not we need to create one). I envision a new "Application Index” Drawer entry. I wouldn’t put it in the App Bar since: 1) the goal of the app bar is to only display the list of apps selected by the admin 2) the user can remove the app bar and configure his/her wiki with different panels and we should still be able to access the App Index Thanks -Vincent > +1 for the distinction between content apps vs no-content apps when > deciding to hide or not the entry page of the application. Sounds like a > good rule. > > Personally, I don`t really agree to go further with the separation of apps > and content for the simple reason that some apps really generate content > (reports, events, tasks, etc.) which are wiki pages/documents and on which > users want to interract/collaborate. I believe that hiding these app > generated content pages from the general navigation / documentTree would > only hinder the collaboration. > > Thanks, > Eduard > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, [email protected] > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I wasn’t sure about current rule for hiding pages so I researched it and > > I’m listing below what I believe is our current status. I’d like to > > document it on dev.xwiki.org if we’re ok with this status. > > > > Current rules: > > ============== > > > > * Technical documents must be hidden > > * Technical apps must be hidden and not appear in the Document Tree. These > > are apps that don’t generate content data. For example the following apps > > (not exhaustive list) have their pages hidden (including WebHome): > > ** Stats app > > ** Active Installs app > > ** AWM app > > ** Color Themes app (it generates data but not content data) > > ** Dashboard app > > ** Scheduler app > > * Apps that generate content pages (ie pages that should be appear in > > global search results) must have their WebHome page not hidden (and the > > generated content pages must also not be hidden). As a consequence these > > apps will appear in the Document Tree. > > > > Future: > > ======= > > > > It would also be nice to discuss if in the future we wish to separate more > > Apps from Content and hide all Application pages (including Webhome), so > > that it is less confusing for users who would: > > * Use the App bar to navigate to applications > > * Use the Document Tree to navigate to content pages > > > > I personally would like this I think but the current problem is that > > generated content pages won’t be found in global search results. Each app > > can provide a specialized search ofc but it’s not good enough. Thus we’d > > need to find a way for the entries to appear in the global search results > > even though they are hidden. One solution would be to have a way to mark a > > space as an application space and exclude those from the DocumentTree (for > > example). > > > > Before we dive into the solutions in details, would you agree that it > > would be good to better separate Apps from Content? > > > > Some Links: > > =========== > > > > * Currently documented best practices about hiding technical documents: > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ApplicationDevelopmentBestPractices > > * Mail thread: > > http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Brainstorming-Rules-for-hidden-documents-need-solution-for-Home-Page-App-for-linking-the-Dashboard-H-td7591201.html > > * JIRA issue: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/MOCCACAL-85 > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
