Of course, this topic has heavily diverged...
Related to e.x.o., right now we have a "dependencies" section where we
display all the ("outgoing") extensions/modules on which the current
extension depends. To address the "bundled with" discussion, we could
create a new "used by" section where we would list all the ("incoming")
extensions that depend on the current one. This will also include flavors
(even the default flavor - for which we don`t have an e.x.o. page AFAIK but
IMO we should) and would also ensure that the value is in synch since it is
computed automatically. WDYT?
Thanks,
Eduard
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 18 May 2016, at 14:59, Paul Libbrecht <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Vincent Massol wrote:
> >>> as long as there is no possibility to "see through" that an extension
> is
> >>>> probably installed on my wiki, the problem will remain.
> >>
> >> WDYM by “see through”? If you go to the admin you see installed
> extensions already.
> > Probably five clicks thus far....
> >>
> >>>> At least as long as there's a single flavour out there, the "default"
> >>>> nature of an extension being installed needs to be made more visible I
> >>>> feel. This I can open as an issue if you wish but I think we are
> missing
> >>>> a way to display this.
> >>
> >> I don’t understand your point with the “default” flavor. Showing
> bundled extensions surely becomes even more important as the number of
> flavors increase.
> > Does it? Isn't the default xwiki-entreprise still the most common one?
> > How would you take in account the other flavours then? By listing them?
>
> Yes, an xproperty in the Repository app would allow defining the flavors
> in which an extension is bundled in (i.e. generalize what we already have
> for XE). BTW right now I think this is just an extension on e.x.o and not
> part of the Repository app. We’ll need to decide what we want to do in the
> future.
>
> >> Re “visibility", I’ve already suggested an idea in my reply.
> > Yes, indeed, listing the flavours.
> > I've opend this one:
> > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13430 not all extensions should
> > be perceived as installable
> > But I feel that something more could be done. Maybe a way to check if an
> > extension is installed in one's wiki (input your wiki name there and
> > keep it in a cookie, click a link or even produce an iframe)
> > What do others feel?
>
> Sure. But that’s why we have the EM in the wiki: to know what’s installed…
> Going to xwiki.org to find what is installed in one’s wiki is an extra
> step… Much easier to check directly from your wiki. Especially if your goal
> is to install something, you’d install from your wiki anyway!
>
> > Also, the fact that it's called "extensions.xwiki.org" remains a hint
> > towards a wiki to be extended.
>
> Not much we can do here IMO. Everything is an extension. The end goal/game
> is to mandate a single extension (and its deps): the extension manager. All
> the rest can then be installed from it. The near future will offer flavors
> and they can be anything.
>
> > Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
> >> And if you try to search for it using Administration > Add Extensions
> >> you'll see that it's already installed.
> > Does this not sound like... I'll add an extension???? I would like to
> > manage extensions.
>
> Have you tried xwiki’s admin UI? :) I’m asking because if you do you’ll
> find a nice “Installed Extensions” menu entry there. And if you try to add
> the HTML Macro using the ‘Add Extension” it should also tell it’s already
> installed so I don’t really see the problem you’re having…
>
> Why do you care to see whether the extension is installed or not in your
> wiki in the end? If you think it’s not, then you’ll obviously try to
> install it and EM will show it’s already installed… No problem...
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Paul
>
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