Thanks for the reply Vincent. On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, > > > On 9 Mar 2017, at 12:12, Mohamed Boussaa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > [snip] > > > If you want more, here is the details about the envision implementation: > > > > *Changes envisions* > > > > > > - Remove the '*BlogType*' xproperty of the '*Blog.BlogClass*' > > - Introduce a new property named '*categoriesLocation'* that contains > > the location (space) of the blog categories. > > - The 'categoriesLocation' property will allow sharing categories > > between different blogs > > - By default when a new blog is created the 'categoriesLocation' > > property is initialized to a nested space 'Categories' under the blog > local > > space. > > > > for example If a Blog is created in a space '*A/*' then its ' > > *categoriesLocation*' property wil be initialized to '*A/Categories/*' > > > > > > - All blog categories will be created in this nested space ' > > *<blogSpace>/Categories/*’ > > Note that the rationale for separate Category space is also to fix the > open issue we have that categories and blog posts cannot share the same > page name (see http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6346). > > > - The *WebHome* page of the Categories space will be used as a > > management page of the blog categories, the WebHome will list all the > > categories of the blog and allows to edit these categories (Add, > Rename, > > Remove ...) > > > > *Backward compatibility* > > > > Actually the default blog installed with xwiki on the 'Blog' space is a > > global blog, it mean that all Blog categories are created on the 'Blog' > > space and shared with the other local blogs. > > > > In order to not break the actual use cases we consider that: > > > > > > - If the 'categoriesLocation' property of a given blog is empty then > > the categories of the default blog will be used (Categories created on > the > > 'Blog' space) > > > > *Changes on blog management page* > > > > > > - Remove the 'BlogType' field > > - Replace the 'Space' and 'Title' fields with a Location picker (like > > when you add a new wiki page). > > - A new blog cannot be created in an existing space, a verification > > will be done to check if the space is a new one. > > > > A 'BlogClass' will be added to the WebHome page of the space > > > > A WebPreferences page will be added to the blog space in order to > > display the blog panels > > You forgot one point: > > * Add an Admin UI for the Blog management by adding a ConfigurableClass. > > We also discussed about: > > * Macros * > > * Introduce a new {{blog}} macro that could be used anywhere to display > the content of a blog (see http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6349) > * Make the blog macro be able to act as a “latest blog posts” feature by > having parameters to control how many entries to display > > > *Registration in the Application Panel (Blogs entry points)* > > > > The general idea is to have a dashboard page that lists all the blogs > > available in the wiki. A separate proposal will be done for the blogs > > dashboard page. > > My proposal here is very simple (for a first version): > > * If there’s only 1 blog in the wiki: keep it as it now, i.e. display the > posts of the main blog > * If there’s more than 1 blog in the wiki: display a LT with each line > being a link to a blog. > * Option: instead of a LT, use the {{blog/}} macro for each blog to list > the last 5 blog items. We’d just need to find a nice layout for that. I’m > sure Caty would have an idea :) > > All the rest sounds good to me! I’m very happy to see someone working on > the blog app; it’s been left untouched for too long. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks, > > > > Mohamed > > > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Mohamed Boussaa < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Mohamed, > >>> > >>>> On 2 Mar 2017, at 16:53, Mohamed Boussaa <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello XWikiers, > >>>> > >>>> This proposal is about adding a new blog type: the isolated blog. > >>>> > >>>> An isolated blog is a blog that is created in a given space (local > >>> blog), > >>>> the blog categories and posts are created/visible only in that space. > >>>> > >>>> The objective of creating this separate blog type is to allow having > >>>> independent blogs in the same wiki and to not break the actual blog > use > >>>> cases. > >>>> > >>>> An isolated blog is subject to following conditions: > >>>> > >>>> *Posts* > >>>> > >>>> - The isolated blog posts will be created in the local blog space > >>>> - Only blog posts located in the local space will be displayed in the > >>>> blog home page > >>>> - Prevent the global blog to display posts from isolated blogs > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Categories* > >>>> > >>>> - New blog categories are created into the local blog space > >>>> - On the blog post form only categories located in the isolated blog > >>>> space will be displayed > >>>> - The 'Categories' panel display only categories located in the > >>> isolated > >>>> blog space > >>>> - Categories from isolated blogs are not displayed in the global blog > >>>> category panel > >>>> > >>>> *Panels* > >>>> > >>>> - Only display local posts in the 'recent posts' panel for isolated > >>>> blogs. > >>>> - Prevent isolated blog posts to be displayed in the global blog > >>> 'recent > >>>> posts' panel. > >>>> - Only display local unpublished posts in the 'Unpublished posts' > >>> panel > >>>> for isolated blogs > >>>> - Prevent unpublished posts from isolated blogs to be displayed at > >>>> global blog 'Unpublished posts' panel. > >>>> - Isolated blogs will be removed from any RSS feed but will be > visible > >>>> on the one matching the isolated blogs. > >>>> - The 'archives' panel will not be modified because it already > follows > >>>> the isolated blogs conditions in the case of local blogs > >>>> > >>>> *How to create an isolated post?* > >>>> On the Blog/Management page > >>>> > >>>> - Add a checkbox "Isolate this blog" > >>>> - When the checkbox is checked: > >>>> > >>>> - Create an isolated blog in place of a local blog. > >>>> - Create the default categories (News, Personal, Others) > >>> into > >>>> the local space > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> WDYT? > >>> > >>> Sorry for not answering sooner. I see you’ve now created > >>> https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14076. > >>> > >>> I’ve just posted a comment there that I’m reposting here: > >>> > >>> “ > >>> How do you address registration in the Application Panel or more > >>> generally what are the entry points for isolated blogs? > >>> > >>> I remember that I made the following suggestion: > >>> * When you click on the Blog entry in the Application Panel, have the > >>> following: > >>> ** If there's only 1 blog in the wiki, go to it (as now) > >>> ** If there's more than 1 blog in the wiki, go to a blog dashboard page > >>> and display the list of all blogs in the wiki (visible to the current > user). > >>> > >> > >> We did not think about how to access to the blogs, but your suggestion > >> can be a good solution. > >> > >> > >>> Note that I don't think we need an "isolated" blog type since we > already > >>> have the notion of a "local" blog. I can see in BlogClass: > >>> > >>> {noformat} > >>> <values>local=Space blog (aggregates posts from its space > >>> only)|global=Global blog (aggregates posts from the entire > wiki)</values> > >>> {noformat} > >>> > >>> Global means aggregating posts from the entire wiki so it doesn't make > >>> sense to not aggregate posts from an isolated blog. > >>> > >>> So I think we could just do the following instead: > >>> * Deprecate the "blogType" xproperty > >>> * Introduce a new property named "scope" or "includes" that list all > >>> spaces that will be taken into consideration when displaying blog > posts. If > >>> left empty, then the current space of the blog will be used. If "%" is > used > >>> then all spaces will be used (in practice the value would be used in > the > >>> where part of XWQL query. > >>> > >>> I feel this makes it all more coherent and offers more freedom. > >>> > >> > >> The isolated blog type is not just about what blog posts to display, it > >> includes also the panels content and where to create the categories. > >> Actually categories are global, it means that they are created in the > >> 'Blog' space. > >> > >> The objective of the islated blog is to be only visible on its space: > >> - Isolated blog categories are created and visible only on the blog > >> space > >> - The categories are not visible on the post edit page of other blogs > >> - The posts are not displayed on the blog index pages of the > >> global/other local blogs > >> - In the space of an isolated blog, the panels will display only > >> posts/categories of the isolated blog > >> > >> > >>> WDYT? > >>> “ > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> -Vincent > >>> > >>> > >> > >
