On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 18 Apr 2017, at 15:55, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> On 04/12/2017 01:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > >>> Hi devs, > >>> > >>> Some users have complained that the content actions are too abstract / > >>> ambiguous and they don't see/understand them so they don't know how to > >> Edit > >>> or Create content in the first minutes of interaction. > >>> > >>> More details about this problem can be found at > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions > >>> > >>> There I've suggested 2 possible proposals: > >>> Proposal 1: JS Tooltips > >>> Proposal 2: Labeled actions > >>> > >>> Which one do you prefer? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Caty > >>> > >>> P.S: This was a recurrent topic and we change several things over the > >>> years. I guess we will continue iterating until we reach the sweet spot > >> :) > >>> > >> > >> IMHO, 1 doesn't solve anything. The buttons already have classic > >> tooltips, and adding "improved" tooltips adds little to the > >> discoverability of the actions. If someone is looking for the "edit" > >> button, they scan the screen for that text with their eyes, they > >> wouldn't just hover everything with the mouse. > >> > >> > > The complain here was the delay the normal tooltips have and that the > users > > switch to another item before the tooltip is displayed. > > > > > >> So, the question is: > >> > >> - is it better to clutter the screen to help a few first-time users that > >> can't interpret the pencil icon? > >> - is it OK to leave things as they are for a cleaner UI? > >> - are there better icons to suggest these actions? And by changing them > >> now, will current users be disoriented? > >> > >> > > I can't think of other Font Awesome icons to better suggest 'Edit' and > > 'Create’. > > But for the Delete/Rename/Copy we need to change the icon for sure since > right now we’re using a “settings” type of icon which is quite misleading. > > Ideas: > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/clone/ > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/files-o/ > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/file-o/ > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/clipboard/ > > The Administer page should probably be moved elsewhere. > How about the "More actions" labeled grouping from http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/P4_noRightPanels_manage.png For these changes we need https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14002 and https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12595 Thanks, Caty > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > > > >> The deciding factor is exactly how many users have a problem with the > >> current UI. > >> -- > >> Sergiu Dumitriu > >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > >
