Hi Caty, > On 14 Jun 2017, at 12:04, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi devs, > > This roadmap we had 2 suggestions: > - "Find a way of avoiding to have 2 "Add" entries ("+" and "Add new > entry")" in AWM > - "Drop down on "+" Menu + Admin UI to select some templates" > > What we have implemented so far was: > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14310 > "Propose and pre-select "recommended" templates in the create UI based on > the current location" > > So now, if you go to the Blog app and create on the "+" button, since Blog > provides a template with a create restriction, the "Blog" template will be > preselected. > > Also, AWM has the option to create a template for each application the > users create. So after you created your app with AWM and go to the "+" > button, the app template will be preselected. > This will allow us in the future to remove the AWM actions area and rely on > the "+" button. > > In the future, we could also separate templates in their own "Recommended" > category. A separate category will be necessary for applications that > provide multiple related templates (like Forum for example that will > contain the Forum, Topic templates) or in the more general case when > multiple templates are recommended for the current location. Currently we > are doing only sorting and preselecting the first one. > > In terms of implementation we just need to make sure all our recommended > apps provide template providers and after that we could change the UI for > AWM and remove the "Add" action from the actions area. > > Now, I want to ask your opinion on the suggestion to add a dropdown for the > "+" button. > Some input: > - a dropdown will not be scalable: you cannot have more than a few options > there;
You mean with bootstrap? Because otherwise we could open some popup when clicking the + with some dialog box allowing to search and choose a template. > - in a dropdown you cannot specify the page name; > - in the dropdown you cannot change or specify another location - you > always need to go to the page first and after choose a template from the > dropdown list; > - you will only see an admin selection of templates - so we invalidate the > templates filtering and you cannot even choose another template after your > initial selection; > - we make the current create step deprecated, since users will not see it > anymore. It’s Ludovic who suggested "Drop down on "+" Menu + Admin UI to select some templates” and AFAIU his idea is to separate the Add action into 2 different steps: * Step 1: select the template first, directly when click on the + * Step 2: you still get the current Add UI where you choose the page name, location, etc but you don’t see the template part anymore (ie there’s no need to have a 2 columns view anymore). Note that maybe there should be a one liner with the name/icon of the selected template with a pencil button to change it if need be. > The main reason of this request was to increase visibility and order for > the templates. Another reason could be to reduce the complexity of the current Add screen. > In the user recording sessions I've seen and with the current layout (2 > columns, templates on right) users don't have problems seeing the > "Templates" section in the Create step. > > Now, for the ordering / selection - the current mechanism of automatic > ordering is a step in that direction - but sure we could implement more > (like the separate category I described earlier). > > Another difference between what was asked and what was currently > implemented is that now the selection comes from the Template Provider; > while the idea was to allow the Administrator to select the displayed > Templates. With the current implementation we can still create an > administration UI to select them and save the changes in the Template > Providers, in a future iteration. My opinion: * I don’t understand why this would increase visibility for templates. I think that’s just a matter of deciding on the order of how we present information on the Create page UI. We need to decide if it’s better for users to choose first page name + location or template first. FTR Confluence chooses the type first too: https://confluence.atlassian.com/conf56/creating-content-658736830.html#CreatingContent-Addingapageorablogpost * I think it feels a bit weird to have a 2 steps process with different types of UIs (dropdown first and then add page dialog) * If we think that the Add page UI is too complex, one solution is to have a 2 steps wizard where users start selecting the type (Template) and then the other information (page name, location) as a second step * We need to decide if we wish to keep the current Create UI implementation or instead use a popup overlay wizard (with 2 steps). Thanks -Vincent > > ----- > > So the question is: > - Do you have other ideas on how we could solve the requests? > - What do you think about having a dropdown with the templates selection - > compared to a recommended category in the creation step? > > Thanks, > Caty
