Hi,

Some thoughts:

* On 
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaMenuInAdministration#HProposals
 I see: "Users confuse Panels and Menus. Since creating the navigation is an 
Admin activity, they expect Menus to be in Administration.”
** It's not that user confuse them, it’s that they’re confusing! :) The fact 
that you create Panels with Menus and that you can also create Panels manually 
is also confusing. We need to decide what we want to promote and explain a lot 
better when one should be used vs the other. If the Menu app was limited to 
creating Menus the difference would be much simpler. Panels app for panels and 
Menu app for menus. IMO we may need to reintegrate some of the features of the 
menu app inside the panel app instead.
** "they expect Menus to be in Administration”. This is a discussion we’ve been 
having for a long time. Right now the strategy is NOT to do this but instead to 
make the Admin apps visible only to admins. I just noticed that the Menu app is 
visible to *everyone* by default. That’s wrong IMO. It should have default 
permissions to be visible to Admins only *by default* (admins could change that 
if they want), similar to Scheduler, Stats, Panels, etc.
** I’m ok to have a section in the Admin that lists all Admin apps (as a 
shortcut) if we think that’s useful, but it should only contain links to those 
apps and those apps should also be listed in the App Index. This allows Admins 
to change permissions for them, for ex if they want to allow such group of 
users the ability to create menus, etc.

So I wouldn’t fold the Menu app itself in the Admin UI for now for consistency 
reason, OR we need to decide that we want to move all Admin apps to the Admin 
UI (and thus remove the use case I mentioned above of being able to give 
permissions to some users or groups to use them).

Thanks
-Vincent

> On 9 Feb 2018, at 15:25, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This mail is also part of the Usability priorititzation list [1]
> 
> Admins expect to manage custom navigation from the Administration.
> 
> This proposal integrates the Menu application in Administration, see
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaMenuInAdministration#HProposals
> 
> Let me know what you think,
> Caty
> 
> [1]
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Usability/Tasks5/Prioritization/

Reply via email to