I was more thing of the unzip and run package. If there is a folder DHIS2Live/firefox-portable/ I thought we could simply run DHIS in this specific browser with a command on the form: "portable-firefox/firefox.exe http://localhost:8080/dhis";
Ola ------ On 23 April 2010 10:48, Jason Pickering <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Including the browser as part of the install is trivial. Making it > launch, without making it the default browser, is the issue really we > are discussing and that will require modification to the DHIS2 tray > app. > > I have currently three different installers in trunk. 1) Windows > bare-bones installer that just installs H2 and DHIS2. 2) Windows > installer with the H2 Sierra Leone DB 3) A console based installer for > Linux. It would be simple enough to produce a fourth, and include a > browser of choice. Still working on the postgres installer, but for > Zambia, I was planning on distributing FireFox/Opera/Chrome or > whatever the devs say is best along with the installer. I did not > really want to make this browser the default, unless the user did this > theirselves, which most browsers will try and do anyway, which is a > bit of a problem. If this feature of "Me first, Me first!" could be > disabled for the SSB, then it sounds like a very good plan to me. > > Regards, > JP > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad > <olati...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would still like us to pursue the idea of distributing a portable > browser > > with DHIS2 live to make it easier to get started with DHIS. > > At least check whether this is doable or not. > > > > This would cater for DHIS training and the "I want to see what this is" > > scenarios when the users are offline or on poor connections making online > > demos difficult to use. > > > > The installer/production scenario is a bit different I think, but also > very > > important. > > > > Ola Hodne Titlestad |Technical Officer| > > Health Metrics Network (HMN) | World Health Organization > > Avenue Appia 20 |1211 Geneva 27, Switzerland | Email: > > titlest...@who.int|Tel: +41 788216897 > > Website: www.healthmetricsnetwork.org > > > > Better Information. Better Decisions. Better Health. > > > > > > On 23 April 2010 10:31, Jason Pickering <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> My suggestion would be to keep it very simple. > >> > >> If the environment variable exists, and is of the form "C:\program > >> files\dhis2\ssb\firefox.exe" then launch it. This would mean that this > >> would only cater to the situation where someone has installed the > >> program with the installer (which will likely be the case for many > >> production installations) but not always. > >> > >> Otherwise, just fall back and do what is already in the code. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolli...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > On 23 April 2010 09:04, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolli...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 23 April 2010 08:54, Jason Pickering <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> I somewhat agree with Bob, but I also see good reasons why packaging > a > >> >>> browser is a good idea. There seems to be pretty wide variation > >> >>> between different browsers, and while it is a good idea to support > >> >>> many different ones, it is also a lot of work. If we could focus on > >> >>> being sure that all the browser-related bugs are not present, for > >> >>> instance in Chrome or Firefox, for a particular release, this would > >> >>> ensure that the app is going to work properly in a production > >> >>> environment. I have seen a lot of problems in the field with people > >> >>> installing toolbars, browser hijacking, etc that really is going to > >> >>> complicate deployments unnecessarily. > >> >>> > >> >>> After looking at the code, it seems that setting an environment > >> >>> variable might be the best solution, perhaps. > >> >>> This could be set as part of the installation process. If the > >> >>> environment variable exists (DHIS2_BROWSER) for example, then it > would > >> >>> attempt to open up DHIS2 with this. Otherwise, it would default to > the > >> >>> current Desktop.getDesktop().browse( URI.create (getUrl() ) ) ); > which > >> >>> will simply launch the default browser. > >> >> > >> >> I guess this could work with an exec. I'll take a look. > >> > > >> > Though I am reluctant to depend on the environment variable for the > >> > out-of-the-box experience. The nice thing about dhis-live is that you > >> > can drop it in and run it. It is this zero-install-fiddling which > >> > people like. Setting environment variables is the next level of > >> > customisation and sophistication for users. Other possibilities: > >> > > >> > (i) check for the existence of a "portable-firefox" folder. If > >> > available use that. > >> > (ii) open a dialog on first invocation requesting users to pick a > >> > browser (I have no idea at this stage how to list them). But that > >> > choice would have to be persisted somehow. > >> > (iii) .... ? > >> > > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> Of course, this could be made as an option of the installer, > whether > >> >>> to install one of these site-specific browsers or not, but I think > the > >> >>> advantages outweigh the disadvantages. It is certainly worth testing > I > >> >>> think. > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards, > >> >>> Jason > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad > >> >>> <olati...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>> On 22 April 2010 23:28, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolli...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On 22 April 2010 19:35, Jason Pickering > >> >>>>> <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > I think it should probably be a blueprint and I think it is a > >> >>>>> > good > >> >>>>> > idea. > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > It is certainly a problem on many machines I have encounterd in > >> >>>>> > the > >> >>>>> > field. We need to install FireFox, Chrome, Opera or something, > and > >> >>>>> > ideally make it the default browser. This seems to be a good > idea > >> >>>>> > to > >> >>>>> > me, but can seem a bit drastic to some users. Ideally, the > >> >>>>> > installer > >> >>>>> > would come prepackaged with this browser. When DHI2 Live is > >> >>>>> > launched, > >> >>>>> > instead of making a call to the default browser (which in most > >> >>>>> > cases > >> >>>>> > in IE), assuming that this was installed as part of a special > live > >> >>>>> > package, then this browser would get opened instead, thereby > >> >>>>> > launching > >> >>>>> > DHIS2. I am not so sure about the DHIS2 live part, as it simply > >> >>>>> > launches the default browser. Bob? > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> I don't think its very easy to coax dhis2-live to open anything > >> >>>>> besides the default browser. Not that its impossible, but > probably > >> >>>>> very messy. I'm also not sure we want to get into the browser > >> >>>>> packaging business. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Could the portable firefox package be of any help here? We could > put > >> >>>> it in a > >> >>>> standard location DHIS2Live/firefox/ and start it from there? I > have > >> >>>> used it > >> >>>> for the PHIT and DHIS seems to run fine there. It is set up with > all > >> >>>> relative paths which should make it easier to distribute as no > >> >>>> installation > >> >>>> is needed. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Ola > >> >>>> -------- > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Knut Staring <knu...@gmail.com > > > >> >>>>> > wrote: > >> >>>>> >> Given that DHIS2 runs best in Chrome (especially the Mapping > >> >>>>> >> module), > >> >>>>> >> and also ok in Firefox, it might be a good idea to make sure > >> >>>>> >> people > >> >>>>> >> have access to one of these browsers. > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> One way to do that is to package things with Prism (Firefox) or > >> >>>>> >> Chrome > >> >>>>> >> (or Fluid for Mac http://fluidapp.com/) > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1842277/chrome-application-shortcuts-mozilla-prism-installer > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> What do you guys think? > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> Knut > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>> >> Mailing list: > >> >>>>> >> https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-devs> > >> >>>>> >> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net > >> >>>>> >> Unsubscribe : > >> >>>>> >> https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-devs> > >> >>>>> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > -- > >> >>>>> > -- > >> >>>>> > Jason P. 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