I have not had a chance to review the changes since last week (been travelling) but it is good to see so much new material being added to the documentation. Just wanted to pipe up and say that the manual which I saw last week, I placed in the implementors guide because I did not feel it was appropriate material for end-users. I am not even sure it is appropriate for the user manual, but this is really more a definition of who the user actually is. In this case, the iReport material was quite technical ( I felt) and was not really appropriate for the types of users who I deal with. As Jens says, I have not dealt with a user who knows how to use iReport or that would be comfortable designing reports with iReport (I myself am not comfortable using iReport and prefer BIRT, but this is another issue).
The important point to remember here however, is the modular nature of the documentation can allow us to put this wherever it may be appropriate for the actual use case. Regards, Jason On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Jens Kaasbøll <je...@ifi.uio.no> wrote: > Hi > We (Caroline and me) had a discussion with an HMIS focal person in Kibaha > Rural District the other day, and he didn't have a clue on how to make > reports, even if he has been working with DHIS for 2 years. Guys like him, > and also a bit more competent users, would be lost in iReport generation. So > we should provide some guidance on when to use and NOT use this > functionality. Eg, the explanation could start with something like: > > If you want to make a chart with one line, like this: > ... a figure of a one line chart ...' > choose Charts. > If you want more lines in your chart, like this > ... your last line chart with 3 lines ... > or other more complex reports, iReports can do it for you. If you do not > succeed in setting it up, please contact your DHIS support person. > > This explanation can probably be made more accurate, but it is more > important that such explanations are catchy than complete. > > Btw, the user in Kibaha Rural got an error message when trying the button > Add period chart. He was not authorized. > > Jens K > > > On 19.06.2011 13:16, Olav Poppe wrote: > >> Yes, I know - the section on line chart explains how to make report tables >> that supports line charts. The point was only that I ignored the issue when >> writing the bar charts section, and just left it with quarters along the >> x-axis... >> >> Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 10:04 skrev Ola Hodne Titlestad >> <ol...@ifi.uio.no<mailto: >> ol...@ifi.uio.no>>: >> >> Olav, >>> >>> This obviously is not the right place to discuss how to make reports and >>> charts, but you can of course create other kinds of report tables that do >>> not cross tab on periods, so that a single period column(in the report >>> table) can appear as a series in a line chart. >>> >>> We should cover in the user manual (I think all this belongs in the user >>> manual and not the implementation guide) what kind of report tables are >>> needed for the various types of charts etc. >>> >>> Ola >>> --------- >>> >>> ------------------------------**---- >>> Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr) >>> HISP >>> Department of Informatics >>> University of Oslo >>> >>> Mobile: +47 48069736 >>> Home address: Vetlandsvn. 95B, 0685 Oslo, Norway. Googlemaps link < >>> http://maps.google.com/maps?**f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&** >>> q=Vetlandsvn.+95B,+0685+Oslo,+**Norway<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Vetlandsvn.+95B,+0685+Oslo,+Norway> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 June 2011 12:30, Olav Poppe < <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**> >>> op.registrer...@me.com <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I know the bar chart example isn't very good. The problem is >>> that I think a lot of the reports that are made have periods on >>> the crosstab dimension, and as far as I know that makes it >>> impossible to make a line chart - and since the bar chart is there >>> by default, I just ignored the whole issue... >>> >>> Olav >>> >>> Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 07.35 skrev Jens Kaasbøll: >>> >>> > Looks nice, and I will try to go through it in detail. >>> > I wonder, who is the intended target audience; normal users, >>> superusers or customizers? >>> > >>> > The bar charts at p14-18 has time units on their x-axis. Time >>> trends are better displayed by line charts as you do in the last >>> example. Bar charts can better be used for comparing facilities or >>> districts. >>> > >>> > Jens K >>> > >>> > >>> > On 17.06.2011 16:30, Lars Helge Øverland wrote: >>> >> Hi Olav, looks very good, nice work. We have a workshop coming >>> up on monday so if you want it would be very helpful if you can >>> put it into docbook. >>> >> Lars >>> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Olav Poppe < >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>op.registrer...@me.com >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**> <mailto: >>> >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>op.registrer...@me.com >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>>> wrote: >>> >> No, it is not in docbook format (I had to be a bit >>> efficient...). I >>> >> can "convert" it to docbook later when I have some time, >>> just wanted >>> >> to check here first before I spent time doing it. >>> >> Olav >>> >> Den 17. juni 2011 kl. 13:01 skrev Jason Pickering >>> >> < >>> <mailto:jason.p.pickering@**gmail.com <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com>> >>> jason.p.pickering@**gmail.com <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> >>> <mailto:jason.p.pickering@**gmail.com <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com>> >>> <mailto: >>> <mailto:jason.p.pickering@**gmail.com <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com>> >>> jason.p.pickering@**gmail.com <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> >>> >>> <mailto:jason.p.pickering@**gmail.com <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> >>> >>>: >>> >>> Hi Olav, >>> >>> I did not look at the details yet, but it seems to be very >>> useful. >>> >>> Is this already in DocBook format? If so, we can find a way to >>> >>> weave it into the existing manual. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Olav < >>> >>> <mailto: >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>op.registrer...@me.com >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>> >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>op.registrer...@me.com >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**> >>> >>> <mailto: >>> >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>op.registrer...@me.com >>> <mailto:op.registrer...@me.com**>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've made a small "manual" for using ireport, that >>> extends on >>> >>> what is in the manual already. It is available at >>> < <http://db.tt/6M28i1k>http://**db.tt/6M28i1k <http://db.tt/6M28i1k>> >>> <http://db.tt/6M28i1k>http://**db.tt/6M28i1k <http://db.tt/6M28i1k> . >>> I thought I would >>> >>> share it here to see if there is any interest adding it >>> to the >>> >>> DHIS user manual. Some of the stuff is quite specific - >>> maybe >>> >>> too specific? >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Olav >>> >> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Mailing list: >>> >>> <https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-**documenters<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-documenters> >>> >https://launchpad.**net/~dhis2-documenters<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-documenters> >>> Post to : >>> >>> <mailto:dhis2-documenters@**lists.launchpad.net<dhis2-documenters@lists.launchpad.net> >>> >dhis2-**documenters@lists.launchpad.**net<dhis2-documenters@lists.launchpad.net> >>> >>> <mailto:dhis2-documenters@**lists.launchpad.net<dhis2-documenters@lists.launchpad.net> >>> > >>> Unsubscribe : >>> >>> <https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-**documenters<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-documenters> >>> >https://launchpad.**net/~dhis2-documenters<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-documenters> >>> More help : >>> >>> <https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> >https://help.**launchpad.net/ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> >>> >>> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-**documenters<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-documenters> > Post to : > dhis2-documenters@lists.**launchpad.net<dhis2-documenters@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-**documenters<https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-documenters> > More help : > https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >
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