Out of curiosity, where are you working, Dave? Knut
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Dave Trombley <dave.tromb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ah, thanks for the informative replies! One of the problems I was having > was that I was using the latest snapshot compiled from bzr and not the > latest release, and the data element edit screen is completely different! > Is there a way to do this currently in the current dev. branch? (We've > already switched our proof-of-concept to the current release version, so > this is making a lot more sense now following your advice and the user > manual, which was confusing us in relation to the snapshot!) > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <ol...@ifi.uio.no> > wrote: >> >> Dave, >> I recommend reading the following parts of the user manual: >> - chapter 4 on Data Elements >> - chapter 5 on Data Sets and Forms >> - chapter 19 - Data Dimensions in DHIS 2, especially sections 19.2 The >> data element dimension, and section 19.8 "From paper forms to >> multidimensional data sets - lessons learned" >> Just to add to what Jason wrote: >> Category combinations are linked to individual data elements, not data >> sets or sections. >> If your forms consists of multiple tables (with or without different >> column headings) you can split a data set into multiple sections with _1_ >> category combination (and a subset of the dataset's data elements - all >> sharing the same category combo) for each section. Then your section form >> design will automatically reflect the tables/sections in your paper form >> (given that the category options are on columns and data elements on rows). >> If you need to design an electronic form that e.g. has data elements on >> columns and category options on rows or combining multiple category >> combinations on columns in the same table you need to go for custom forms. >> Although the category combinations simplifies how you design forms I >> recommend thinking about how the data will be used in analysis and >> presentation after the data has been collected, e.g. how aggregation will >> take place, and let that guide how you design data elements and categories, >> and not let the data entry form structure control that. The total and >> subtotal of data elements are used in many data analysis components (such as >> validation rules, indicators, reports, pivot tables) and it is definitely an >> advantage if the total of the data element's category options add up to >> something meaningful and is not just picked to mimic column headings in a >> form. Many more thoughts and examples on this in section 19.8 in the >> manual. >> We also have some very fresh material on this topic from a recent >> workshop, which you can find here (look under Tuesday and the session called >> "Design of data elements and data sets"): >> http://www.hisp.uio.no/events/201102-impl-workshop/programme2.html >> >> Ola >> --------- >> >> >> ---------------------------------- >> Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr) >> HISP >> Department of Informatics >> University of Oslo >> >> Mobile: +47 48069736 >> Home address: Vetlandsvn. 95B, 0685 Oslo, Norway. Googlemaps link >> >> >> On 18 February 2011 18:02, Jason Pickering <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> Welcome! >>> >>> Its is a bit confusing to me as well. Let me try and explain as best >>> as I can. Others that understand the model may correct me. >>> >>> >>> You need to create a "Concept". In this case, it would probably >>> "Phase" as well. >>> >>> You need to create categories. In your case this would be a "Phase". >>> >>> You need to create category options, "Phase A" and "Phase B" for the >>> category "Phase". >>> >>> You need a "Data element category combination" as well. In your case, >>> it would be "Phases" perhaps. If the data elements is further >>> disaggregated by categories "Age" and "Gender" you could add these >>> categories as well. >>> >>> Finally , you need a data element "Number of patients testing positive >>> for disease X" assigned tp "Combination of categories" >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dave Trombley <dave.tromb...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi all >>> > >>> > I'm new to DHIS2, and going through the process of migrating a >>> > paper >>> > HMIS to a DHIS2 data schema. >>> > >>> > I have a tabular data structure where I can identify the data >>> > elements, >>> > and the categories/dimensions of those elements. Data elements are >>> > such as >>> > "Number of patients testing positive for disease X" and categories are >>> > such >>> > as "in phase A", "in Phase B", etc. >>> > >>> > I'd like the data entry form to show up with different cells to >>> > enter >>> > "Number of patients testing positive (in phase A)" and "Number of >>> > patients >>> > testing positive (in phase B)", as it seems they should if the >>> > categories >>> > are defined. However, I'm having trouble making this happen. >>> > >>> > The documentation at several points makes references to "assigning >>> > a >>> > category to a data element" but I cannot find any place where it >>> > described >>> > how this is done, nor can I seem to make it happen after playing with >>> > the >>> > interface for about an hour. This is all very confusing, and I'm >>> > hoping >>> > someone can explain how it works? >>> > >>> > Do I need to create a category combo? Why are category combos I >>> > create >>> > not showing up in the dataset section form's "category combo" dropdown, >>> > ever? Do categories associate with data elements or with (groups, >>> > sets, >>> > datasets, dataset sections), etc? How do all of these entities relate? >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>> > Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net >>> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jason P. Pickering >>> email: jason.p.picker...@gmail.com >>> tel:+260974901293 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>> Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Cheers, Knut Staring _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
