What would be the main benefits of this versus just using the H2 database in 
DHIS live, except the documentation?
 
Den 18. aug. 2011 kl. 14:12 skrev Jason Pickering:

> We have also created an H2 installer, which is considerably easier than the 
> Postgres installer. This would allow you to install this on a users machine, 
> with the documentation and a pre-populated H2 database, which may be 
> something to consider. Let me know if this would fit your deployment plans, 
> and we can discuss more details. 
> 
> Regards,
> Jason
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Olav Poppe <olav.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, I will at least try to see how the default H2 performs.
> 
> Olav
> 
> Den 18. aug. 2011 kl. 13:50 skrev Knut Staring:
> 
>> I agree with Bob that it is worth trying going with H2, as it does simplify 
>> things considerably. It also provides a possibility for db backup (and 
>> transmission) through the copying (and sending) of the whole db file (though 
>> a monthly zipped incremental DXF export should be smaller).
>> 
>> Knut
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Olav Poppe <olav.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks
>> It seems the barrier for going offline should be quite high... Will have to 
>> look more into exactly how bad the connections are in the worse areas, and 
>> also into the offline data entry in 2.4.
>> 
>> As for those districts that are in fact offline, is the live package with H2 
>> sufficient? Keeping postgres out of the picture would likely reduce the 
>> amount of support required quite a lot.
>> 
>> Olav 
>> 
>> 
>> Den 18. aug. 2011 kl. 13:32 skrev Jason Pickering:
>> 
>>> I agree with both Bob and Ola. 
>>> 
>>> We have tried not quite yet succeeded in getting DHIS2 installed with 
>>> Tomcat/Postgres on Windows with a one-click installer, this my caveat about 
>>> a "supervised" install. There are a lot of things which can happen on users 
>>> machines and maintenance becomes a huge issue. DHIS is still under intense 
>>> development, and a lot of things change quickly. Upgrading a single server 
>>> is a piece of cake. Upgrading dozens or hundreds of off-line machines is a 
>>> true nightmare and a serious risk and resource drain to any deployment. 
>>> 
>>> I agree with Ola. Totally exclude an on-line server as an option first. If 
>>> you have already done that, all I can say is, be prepared for a LOT of tech 
>>> support. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <ol...@ifi.uio.no> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Olav,
>>> 
>>> How offline are these districts? Can they not get connected through mobile 
>>> usb modems/dongles? There is so much to gain from online deployment that I 
>>> would check out every alternative of connectivity before deciding to go 
>>> completely offline. The mobile Internet solution is working very well in 
>>> Kenya. With the offline data entry capabilities in the upcoming 2.4, the 
>>> districts do not have to be online during the data entry process, which is 
>>> a major advantage in areas with poor/unstable connectivity.
>>>  
>>> Further recommendations on deployment can be found in the implementation 
>>> guide here:
>>> http://dhis2.org/doc/snapshot/en/implementer/html/ch04.html
>>> 
>>> And a presentation on the same topic in the zip file with implementation 
>>> guide slides here:
>>> http://dhis2.org/download/presentations/presentations.zip
>>> 
>>> Ola
>>> -------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------
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>>> HISP
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>>> University of Oslo
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 August 2011 15:02, Jason Pickering <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> One strong reason not to use it is the relative lack of testing. In theory, 
>>> it should work, but just as with MySQL, much more testing has occurred with 
>>> Postgres than with the other database systems. 
>>> 
>>> We have some beta-level Windows installers, which might be of interest to 
>>> you, which work pretty well under supervised circumstances. It might be 
>>> something to consider if you want a relatively automated install of the 
>>> DHISLive/Postgresql stack, with automated restore of the database. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Olav Poppe <olav.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> we're looking at what do to with offline installations for the 
>>> implementation here in Ghana. Are there any reasons not to use DHIS Live? 
>>> Can H2 be used (importing the metadata into an empty database), or should 
>>> postgres be set up as well?
>>> 
>>> There are 170 districts here, and about half of them might have to be 
>>> offline installs so an easy-to-use solutions would be good.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Olav
>>> 
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