Hi All,

Thanks for the prompt response.  I am creating a custom form for our
teaching hospital and want to include all the current data elements and new
elements that are only applicable to the hospital so I want to be sure of
that before doing such.

Thanks

Stephen

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Lars Helge Øverland <l...@dhis2.org> wrote:

> Hi Murod,
>
> no we will not do that. The principle is that if two data element
> definitions in two forms (data sets) are identical, then for the same
> period and org unit it should not be necessary to enter data twice. Your
> idea here will in fact lead to data duplication, not remove redundancy.
> This design is part of an effort to remove duplicate data entry across
> forms which is something we have seen a lot in the HMIS setting.
>
> regards,
>
> Lars
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Murod Latifov <mlati...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can we add dataset id to datavalue and make each dataset elements value
>> unique? This is required most of the time and also easy for analysis
>> avoiding redundabt dataelements with exact same definition.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Murod
>>
>> On 9 Dec 2016 15:21, "Lars Helge Øverland" <l...@dhis2.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> a DHIS 2 data value is linked to data elements, not data sets. The
>>> implication is that if you have a data element being part of multiple data
>>> sets and enter a data value for the first data set, then the data value
>>> will show up pre-filled in the other data set when you open it. So there
>>> will not be duplication, but you will not be able to have different data
>>> values for that data element, as the data element will point to the same
>>> data value irrespective of which data set you open. I am assuming that the
>>> same org unit, period and data set category has been selected in the this
>>> scenario.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Lars
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Trøyel Nerbø <troyel.ne...@nrc.no>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> As far as I understand the data set is just a way to organize and
>>>> present data elements. If you want to use the same data element in two
>>>> different data sets, and not share data between them, you have to employ a
>>>> different disaggregation. Using category combination on the data set will
>>>> retain the same data element with its disaggregation’s but give the ability
>>>> to separate the data entered on different data sets. See the manual:
>>>> https://ci.dhis2.org/docs/master/en/user/html/dhis2_user_man
>>>> ual_en_full.html#d1245e4345
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (In NRC we use several category options as attributes to specify i.e.
>>>> which project the reported data belongs to). I hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Trøyel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> *Halvar Trøyel Nerbø*
>>>> Reporting Advisor
>>>>
>>>> +47 992 39 817 <992%2039%20817>
>>>>
>>>> Skype: nrc_troyel
>>>> www.nrc.no
>>>>
>>>> [image: nrclogo] <http://www.nrc.no/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Dhis2-users [mailto:dhis2-users-bounces+troyel.nerbo=
>>>> nrc...@lists.launchpad.net] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Gbanyan
>>>> *Sent:* fredag 9. desember 2016 10.09
>>>> *To:* dhis2-users <dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>
>>>> *Subject:* [Dhis2-users] need Assistance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to have a data element sharing two different data sets?
>>>> If so will it not duplicate figures?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Health Information System
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