Thanks Elmarie, that’s good to know.

My problem is how to deal with aggregate data where the period for treatment 
outcomes of TB cases has been assigned to the period the report was compiled 
and not the period when the patients were notified (registered). The standard 
practice in TB is to report outcomes 12 months after cases are notified.  We 
recommend assigning outcomes to the same period in which cases are notified, 
but we see many countries that don't do that, so I was looking for a 
DHIS2-native way to compare patient numbers notified with patient numbers with 
treatment outcomes. Of course with tracker this wouldn't be a problem at all!

Cheers,

Hazim

…..
Hazim Timimi
Data Manager, Tuberculosis Monitoring and Evaluation, World Health 
Organization, Geneva, Switzerland







From: Elmarie Claasen <elma...@hisp.org>
Sent: 06 November 2018 10:32
To: TIMIMI, Hazim Bakir <timi...@who.int>; DHIS 2 Users list 
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Subject: RE: [Dhis2-users] Adding a time lag functionality to DHIS2

Hi Hazim,
We are also eagerly awaiting the flexibility for indicator expressions. Note 
that if you are collecting data using tracker and using v2.30 or later you can 
use the analytics period boundaries in program indicators to set up timelag 
indicators.
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From: Dhis2-users 
<dhis2-users-bounces+elmarie=hisp....@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:hisp....@lists.launchpad.net>>
 On Behalf Of TIMIMI, Hazim Bakir
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 11:18 AM
To: DHIS 2 Users list 
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Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Adding a time lag functionality to DHIS2

Many thanks Jim. I’m glad this is being looked at and seriously considered. I 
don’t use DHIS2 regularly, but whenever I do I find it frustrating not to be 
able to use more flexible expressions such as the ones listed at 
https://jira.dhis2.org/browse/DHIS2-4469 when defining indicators.

Cheers,
Hazim

From: Jim Grace <j...@dhis2.org<mailto:j...@dhis2.org>>
Sent: 05 November 2018 19:30
To: TIMIMI, Hazim Bakir <timi...@who.int<mailto:timi...@who.int>>
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list 
<dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>>
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Adding a time lag functionality to DHIS2

Hazim, you are not alone!

We are looking at exactly this kind of thing now, based on requests from many 
users. Just now I've commented on this at 
https://community.dhis2.org/t/expression-enhancements-to-space-shift-and-time-shift-data/774.

In the meantime you might consider the use of predictors that can be used to 
bring data forward in time and store it in new data elements, which can then be 
used in indicators alongside current data. This does require new data elements, 
and storing the same data under two different periods in the database. We hope 
to be able to avoid this in the future by allowing time-shifting in the 
indicators themselves, very much like what you saw in the Launchpad blueprint. 
But using predictors is something you could do today with existing DHIS2 
functionality.

Cheers,
Jim Grace

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 5:41 PM TIMIMI, Hazim Bakir 
<timi...@who.int<mailto:timi...@who.int>> wrote:
There are various things we would like to calculate using data from different 
time periods, such as % change between one period and the next, or to perform 
cohort analysis. I see this was raised in 2015 (see 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/indicator-time-lags).

Does anyone have any experience of doing this in DHIS2? I didn’t find anything 
on JIRA. We surely can’t be the only people wondering about this?

Any helpful hints would be most welcome!

Thanks,
Hazim

…..
Hazim Timimi
Data Manager, Tuberculosis Monitoring and Evaluation, World Health 
Organization, Geneva, Switzerland

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