On 1 Aug 2003, Alan Horkan wrote:
>
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Lars Clausen wrote:
>
>>>> UI: * Need some indication on the left/right arrow icons that these
>>>> are for selecting arrowheads. I've had several bugreports of people
>>>> who couldn't figure that out:(
>>>
>>> dont do anything too complicated, longer term I think something
>>> radically differnt would be far easier to use (i have a few ideas, not
>>> practical in the 0.92 timeframe though).
>>
>> I was thinking of having a vague outline of an arrow for the non-arrow
>> case.
>
> Well I was thinking that the arrow ends should have some sort of an
> active target area and that by clicking neat the end of an arrow you
> could change the shape at the end of the arrow. Trying to go for the
> direct manipulation kind of idea.
Ooohh, that'd be nice. Harder to do, but nice. I was just thinking of the
widgets at the bottom of the toolbox.
> I was also thinking that we might also be able to go for the more
> conventional menu item/dialog approach, Visio, Smartdraw et al. have
> something like Format Line Style.
> I'll try and post screenshots of the behaviours I have seem
Are you saying we should split the properties dialog into smaller pieces.
>>> There is a bug report filed suggesting that we should not have a
>>> Dialogs menu, but I was stopped in my tracks by not having somewhere to
>>> put the python console. (sorry, i would normally provide a bug number
>>> but I am short for time). I still think that Layers would be much
>>> better as the last item of the View menu and that Properties should be
>>> the first item of the Object menu. (dont get me started on what a bad
>>> usability example the GIMP is...)
>
>> There is something to be said for redundancy. Many programs now have
>> the
>
> To be pedantic this is repitition not redundancy and the thing to be said
> about it is that it is confusing and bad usability. Not sure if the
> Gnome HIG explictly recommends against duplicate menu items, I'll try and
> find it this weekend hopefully.
Well, ok, it's no biggie.
>> If it's just a question of turning <name> into <_name> etc, then I can
>> send you a perl script to do that.
>
> I think it nearly is that simple.
In that case:
perl -p -e
's/<name>/<_name>/;s!</name>!</_name>!;s/<description>/<_description>/;s!</description>!</_description>!;'
<foo.sheet >foo.sheet.in
>>> Aside from adding more shapes there are not any issues of mine that
>>> should hold back the release. Most of my suggestions are niceties that
>>> could wait but with a reasonablely clear targets and deadlines I will
>>> do my best to put other distractions aside and get some of the stuff I
>>> want done, done in time.
>>
>> Why do you take a crack at Duplicate first, then start going through
^^ don't, of course:)
>> accumulated shapes?
>>
>> -Lars
>
> I should warn you that because of work and a certain beligerrant
> Operating Systems Manufacturer refusing to allow me to instal the
> software because they no longer provide support for my perfectly adequate
> operating system that I have been forced to squander many hours upgrading
> to 'Newer Technology' and I expect I will have to waste many more hours
> sorting out drivers and service packs. <sigh>
Best of luck to you. I am afeared that I will end up working with products
from the aforementioned Manufacturer eventually, if I can't find real work.
-Lars
--
Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor
"I do not agree with a word that you say, but I |----------------------------
will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and
--Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket?
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