On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 09:44:45PM +0100, Hans Breuer wrote: > At 09.02.2011 13:25, Chris G wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 04:00:19AM -0800, Octavio Alvarez wrote: > >>On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 03:23:32 -0800, Chris G<c...@isbd.net> wrote: > >> > >>>On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 03:21:01PM +0000, Chris G wrote: > >>>>I have some small arc objects on some of my diagrams and they're very > >>>>difficult to move as it's nearly impossible not to hit one of the resize > >>>>end/mid points. Is there any way one can force a move rather than a > >>>>resize? > >>>> > >>>No answers to this? > >>> > >> > >>Have you tried zooming in using Ctrl+Wheel to make it easier? > >> > That would be have me my answer, too ... > >That's one possibility, yes,but everything else is a 'sensible' size > ... but I thought it was too obvious that you ask about it. > I still don't get the use case of your request though. How do you > position the arcs if the only thing cou can see are it's handles? > What I do at present is drag one handle to the right place and then drag the other handle to its place. I then sometimes have to resize the arc as well by dragging the 'middle' handle. It's this rather laborious process that I'm trying to avoid.
To use the little arcs I just Copy/Paste to create new ones and then move them (laboriously as above) to where I want it. It would be *much* easier if I could reliably drag them. > >when un-zoomed and I'd often want to move the little arcs off the edge > >of the zoomed view. It would make moving them a bit of a laborious > >process, zoom in, grab object, move it, > Having wildly different sized objects is tedious, yes. Feels like > you are getting what you asked for ;) > The arcs have to be small compared with all my other objects, it's just the way things are on these diagrams. > >find I can't move it far enough, zoom out, etc. > Are you aware that you can move further than the visible area and > Dia scrolls the view accordingly? > Yes, it's still not ideal. > >It feels like there could be something like CTRL+click which forces a > >grab. > > > Just adding more modifiers to the already complex combinations does > not sound like a viable option to me. As mentioned above I'm still > not sure if I completely got the use case. > But also I have doubts if you completely evaluated exisiting options > for selection - you do not need to 'grab' an object to move it, you > can move objects by cursor keys, ... > Yes, I do that sometimes, it's excellent for short moves but not so convenient for large moves. > It may also help, that handles in a group of selected objects are > not any longer resizing the objects when grabbed. Instead the whole > selection is moving. > The 'use' case is in circuit diagrams where I much prefer the use of little arcs to indicate that wires are not connected when crossing rather than the convention that crossing wires are not connected and T wires are connected. Thus I need quite a lot of 'little arcs' and often need to move them around extensively. They also need to be a lot smaller than the other circuit symbols. -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
