Salutos ba totos/ Saludos a todos. En esta carta voy a practicar un poco la "descortesía lingüística intencionada". Voy a poneros un mensaje de cierta longitud sólo en tino y que trata de temas básicos con bastante importancia sobre el multilingüismo. Puedo hacerlo en castellano, puedo hacerlo en inglés o puedo hacerlo con interlineado de tino y castellano. Pero, como auxilingüista que soy, en esta lista tengo un derecho a expandir el tino sin supeditarlo al castellano, y menos aún al inglés. El hecho es que quien esté muy interesado en mi respuesta consultará el folleto del tino, disponible en la sección de documentos o periódicamente pegado como mensaje de texto. Con esa consulta y la gramática neolatina del tino es imposible que se le haga cuesta arriba comprender el texto. Más le costará al usuario medio de la lista Ideolengua coger el siguiente texto reciente aparecido en ella, y sólo en inglés.
"http://conlang.alkaline.org I was wondering if anyone was ever going to post to this list. A week or so ago i decided to create a conlang database to store data on people's conlangs. While there are plenty of pages with long lists of links to conlangs, i decided i wanted something better. Those lists are generally non-categorized or are only categorized under basic categories, and since they are under the control of one person, are notoriously outdated much of the time. What i am doing is creating an automated conlang database. Each conlanger will register themselves, and then they would be able to add, delete, and modify entries on their conlangs as they see fit. Also, the database would have a powerful search feature that would allow you to sift through the languages based on particular classifications. (if you prefer the term auxlanger, substitute that where appropriate). I have already been getting ideas and suggestions from the conlang list, but i'd like some input from the auxlang side too. Since most people are two lazy to click on links, i'll just paste the categorization info here that i have so far. The latest version is always available at the webpage. 1. Basic information: language name previous language names author's name world location of author webpage url language creation date date added to database date db entry last modified 2. Current language status: current development status estimated fluent users (speaking, reading, writing) estimated familiar users vocabulary size estimated date of usability 3. Con-world information number of fictional users fictional world location 4. The language in use: writing system example written sentence (sentence, gloss, and translation) pictorial sample of script audio sample 5. Language classification: basic description language family grammar details design motivation primary vocabulary source primary vocabulary derivation method secondary vocabulary source secondary vocabulary derivation method Details Here are some more details on the different parts of the language classification: A. Grammar phonology: number of sounds morphology: isolation vs affixation morphology: agglutination vs inflection syntax: word order (SVO, SOV, etc) syntax: number of cases used (nominative, accusative, ergative, etc) syntax: number of tenses (past, present, future) B. design motivation 1. personal 1.1 secret language 1.2 hobby language 1.9 other 2. artistic 2.1 sci-fi/fantasy/conculture 2.1.1 human speakable 2.1.2 alien-speakable only 2.2 historical 2.3 naming language 2.9 other 3. auxiliary 3.1 international 3.2 reform 3.9 other 4. experimental 4.1 logical 4.2 hypothetical 4.9 other C. Vocabulary Source 1. A posteriori 1.1 Indo-European languages 1.1.1 Romance-based 1.1.1.1 Latin 1.1.1.2 French 1.1.1.3 Spanish 1.1.1.4 Other specific Romance language 1.1.2 Germanic-based 1.1.2.1 English 1.1.2.2 German 1.1.2.3 Other specific Germanic language 1.1.3 Baltic- and Slavonic-based 1.1.3.1 Slavonic-based languages (proper) 1.1.3.2 North-Slavonic languages 1.1.3.3 Baltic-based 1.1.4 Celtic-based 1.1.4.1 Celtic-based languages (proper) 1.1.4.2 Celto-Romance languages 1.1.4.3 Celto-Germanic languages 1.1.5 Other (existing) Indo-European branches 1.1.5.1 Indo-Iranian-based languages 1.1.5.2 Greek-, Armenian-, Albanian- and Illyrian-based languages 1.1.5.3 Hettite- and Tocharian-based languages 1.2 Non-Indo-European languages 1.2.1 Uralic-based languages 1.2.2 Afro-Asiatic-based languages 1.2.3 other Asiatic or Austronesian languages 1.2.4 other African languages 1.2.5 Native American languages 1.3 Artificial languages 1.3.1 Esperanto 1.3.2 Artificial language ancestor 1.3.3 other artificial language 2. A priori 2.1 Speakable 2.1 Unspeakable 2.1.1 Pasigraphies (picture languages) 2.1.2 Number languages 2.1.3 Pasimologies (sign/gesture languages) 2.1.4 Musical languages D. Vocabulary Derivation Method 1. a posteriori 1.1 unaltered (grammar modifications only) 1.2 natural evolution (descendent) 1.3 modification 1.3.1 phonological modification 1.3.2 simplification 1.3.3 spelling reform 1.4 blend (words borrowed multiple language sources) 1.4.1 unaltered borrowing 1.4.2 phonological filtering 1.4.3 word blend (words blended from multiple sources) 2. a priori 2.1 categorical/logical generation 2.2 arbitrary generation 2.3 automated random generation http://conlang.alkaline.org" Por su parte, David Sánchez dice: "En unos 200 años el número de lenguas habladas en el mundo probablemente podrá ser la mitad! de lo q q es ahora mismo. Tal vez esto solo agrade a los auxilingüístas q cada año tienen 3 o 4 competidores menos ;-) pero por lo q respecta a la diversidad cultural me parece una pena." . Y Antonio añade: "Este proceso de uniformización de las lenguas parece imparable. Quizás la Auxilengua del futuro venga por sí sola, visto el panorama.". Y respondo esto. nosos, creantos mas parolantos de planlinguos, senpre cerane ce las linguos nasionas continueje parolatas/ sel la inpedasiono de usare linguos esale antietica/ pero, incluso cando non esistale cuesa inpedasiono, jeneralamente la proseso de sinplasiono esa cada bolto plus forta/ inoltre, en cuesta listo ono liberamente usale planlinguos, jeneralamente planlinguos artas/ probablamente, en la futuro las linguos nasionas non esoje proibatas, pero esoje usatas comunamente como jocatoros, como cando ono jocale con cuestas linguos artas de la listo/ De Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo. 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