Hi all: I really like the idea of having some useful material in Spanish, and pretty much agree that having another isolated island of the same topic doesn't make sense. As a Mexican I would like to contribute spreading all the very interesting insights/project results and/or other interesting information discussed in this forum. Congratulations to Alex for the initiative. I am right now working in Croatia in a different field but my background of agricultural engineering and a master degree on environmental economics could help to support this initiative. Therefore I am able to volunteer with my time to let say translate, either from english to spanish or spanish to english, around 600 words (one page, font: times new roman size: 11) every week, I mean nowadays is very easy to be in contact with so many IT tools and online coomunication platforms out there. That wont be a professional translation service but I think as an starting point it can really add value to the idea (and I will make the best effort to contribute with this).
I am personally interested in the topic because my professional activities in Croatia will probably have to do with the dissemination and design of small and medium green technologies and I am planning to extend this activity somehow in Mexico. Saludos! Hermes Arriaga Sierra linkedIn: hermes.arriaga On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Alexander Eaton <a...@sistemabiobolsa.com>wrote: > No one has suggested suggested poaching things from private websites, and > then re-posting without credit, and that issues is really pretty well dealt > with under standard plagiary laws and/or ethics, of which we obviously > adhere. > > I am envisioning a newletter-type posting that summarizes points, gives > credit, or at least lists people involved in the conversation. This would > be a public list serve run by a non-profit whose goals are to spread the AD > WORD. But maybe just generating ideas from this list, that lead to research > and monthly topics of discussion would be a better route. > > To look at this the other way, I would never cite anything I read in a post > here in a research paper, nor would I present it to a Spanish audience as > fact. What comments here should lead to is further research that could then > back-up opinions. In some cases, for example the work of Dr. Karve, he > presents a lot of original research findings, and then invites us to see > where those points are published. > > Maybe a better way to go would be the translation of questions and comments > generated from our spanish list to Enlgish, and then the presentation of > them here. They could come with context, and any initial discussion to > date. Anyone responding would then know we were going to be translated and > re-posted. That way we avoid any issues. I have trouble believing that > anyone would be posting anything confidential, and that no one here is > really posting anything truly NEW, so I would like to think that comments > here are destined for the PUBLIC, regardless of language, but...all of those > point warrant further investigation. > > What I want to avoid is another Island, isolated, going over the same > topics and asking the same questions, with no giant shoulders to stand on... > > A > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Markus Schlattmann <fir...@schlattmann.de > > wrote: > >> Yes, anything published without password protection in the internet is >> public, but generally not public domain (this is often misunderstood). >> Normally if you summarize other people's thougts and writings that is not >> your own generated content you give a source information. >> >> This must be so, since nobody would create websites spending hours in >> creating content if anyone could recycle this in an easy way, giving no >> source information and claiming an own copyright. There would be just >> recyclers and no new content. >> And sometimes I see ideas or content copied from my page (sometimes just >> copy and paste without changing anything). Of course this is not very >> amusing. >> >> Even Wikipedia is not "public domain" but "creative commons". >> >> But I actually don't know the license system of the REPP servers, list >> owners and users. >> And this stuff is not my matter of concern. >> >> Of course I write this in a point of view of a webmaster, not as a member >> of this list. >> >> Sorry for being really "offtopic" to biogas discussion. >> But if user postings are copied, summarized and translated this may be of >> concern for every single user. >> If I would have a very good idea, and I would like to discuss this, I >> would not do this in the field of public domain. >> It also depends who uses the information. Is it a commercial website? Or >> another REPP list group? >> >> In my point of view there should be at least a link to the REPP archive >> page stating where the original content is taken from. So there would be >> also a benefit for the original list. >> >> REPP list postings is exclusive content generated by each single user. >> >> If it can be copied, summarized and translated by anyone in any way, it's >> no more exclusive content. >> Then it's public domain. This is the point you should become aware of. >> >> And if it's public domain, just tell me! I wrote that my english board is >> not very active yet, but I could post some summaries, leading to duplicate >> content but who cares! ;-) >> Forget the last 2 sentences, just a bad joke pointing to the problem I >> talk about. >> >> I hope I didn't bore you with this stuff. >> >> Markus >> >> Am 30.11.2010 22:23, schrieb Alexander Eaton: >> >> Thanks Marcus for the additional thoughts. I think we may be able to >> avoid this issues bu summarizing questions and responses, and attempting to >> outline differing thoughts or conflicts surrounding certain issues. As I >> understand it, anything I post to this forum is public, and aside from >> egregious plagiary or slander, recycling this information would be OK. I do >> understand your concerns regarding attribution, or directly quoting anyone >> in a translation situation. This may warrant further discussion, and there >> will likely be some trial and error. >> >> Saludos, >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digestion mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> digest...@bioenergylists.org >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more information about digestion, see >> Beginner's Guide to Biogas >> http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ >> and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/ >> >> >> > > > -- > Alexander Eaton > Sistema Biobolsa > IRRI-Mexico > RedBioLAC > > Mex cel: (55) 11522786 > US cel: 970 275 4505 > > a...@irrimexico.org > a...@sistemabiobolsa.com > > sistemabiobolsa.com > www.irrimexico.org > www.redbiolac.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Digestion mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > digest...@bioenergylists.org > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more information about digestion, see > Beginner's Guide to Biogas > http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ > and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/ > > >
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