On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote: > On Sunday, 31 January 2016 at 11:14:08 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote: >> >> If you don't get a cease and desist letter from the D Foundation soon I'd >> be surprised. > > > http://forum.dlang.org/post/n5sf7o$mu1$2...@digitalmars.com > > > Andrei isn't exactly enthusiastic (though later on, he softens a bit), but > I'm convinced we need to change course anyway. > > Of course, if they did try more harsh measures, I'd fight it, and then we'd > see a far more problematic division in the community. > >> but you have absolutely no reason to constantly insult >> the work on the main site. > > > I see a distinction between insults and technical criticism. A navigation > bar that is difficult to navigate is a technical problem - and there's a > technical solution. Changing the color of template constraints is like > shoving toys under the bed when your mother is about to inspect your room. > It might fool her for about two seconds, but she's going to see it anyway > and will not be pleased. > > And more importantly, it doesn't actually clean up the dust, or organize the > toys, or discover the dirty laundry that got mixed in to the floor. > > > It is an easy "solution" that you can quickly do without a lot of work, but > it isn't actually fixing anything. It is solving the unreadable mess problem > by shoving half of it under the rug instead of actually making it readable. > > (And putting the text "Constraint:" before is silly too. Anyone who knows > what that means also knows what if() means in this context, and anybody who > doesn't isn't going to learn anything from it.) > > > If dlang.org fixed these problems, I'll set my site to redirect to their > site again like it used to do. But, as I've described before, I don't think > it will change in that direction without a major, multi-faceted overhaul. > > I'm doing that overhaul now. And my content changes are available for > upstream: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/3895 > > Minor content so far, but lots of cross referencing, fixing missing > comments, organizing, etc. > > though some of it also relies on the generator changes, so it isn't > something they can just merge and forget about... > >> _Creating division in such a small community is not helpful_. > > > It might be such a small community because of the weakness in its > documentation. I've interviewed a LOT of new and prospective D users over > the last several months and every one of them, without exception, expressed > difficulty to me in navigating the official site. Several of them just went > elsewhere and didn't look back.
100% bro, I'm not referring to making a separate implementation or anything like that I'm saying: "As a 'important user' in our community your voice counts for something and be careful what you say". Surely everyone can agree on that?