On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 01:42:13 UTC, Andrew Godfrey wrote:
On Monday, 11 July 2016 at 17:31:23 UTC, Dietrich Daroch wrote:
On Monday, 11 July 2016 at 16:27:38 UTC, Andrew Godfrey wrote:
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* It must not be ignorable by the compiler.
* It must generate an error if that compiler would be unable
to do the TCO. Otherwise, the compiler *may* (not "must")
apply the TCO, unless compiled under (some optimization
level, please specify), in which case it *must* apply TCO.
One difficulty with this is the words "that compiler". I.e.
other compilers are free to be unable to make the TCO. This
means that by using this feature, you have made your code
non-portable.
I think that noticing problems while porting it it's better
than having it crash unexpectedly as it would currently happen.
Sure, non-portability that causes a guaranteed compiler error,
is better than other kinds of non-portability. But it's still
non-portable. That is distasteful enough that you probably need
to make a more compelling case; factorial is a "toy" function
that's not enough - on its own - to justify adding a feature.
I personally feel like it is a neat idea, and it may enable
some programming styles that I'm not familiar with so I can't
say they definitively they have no value. The reason I'm not
familiar with them could be that I've never had this feature in
a language I've used a lot. So there could be something here,
BUT I also think it would need to be a portable feature, which
implies much more rigorous rules that all compilers would have
to follow. (They could still do TCO for more complicated
situations, but those wouldn't interact with this feature; to
make use of this feature you'd have to conform to the more
rigorous rules).
I've thought about using pragmas and they would allow for an
easier implementation if ignored pragmas raise warnings (and
errors with strict flags) when a pragma was ignored.
Under that setup, people who need the errors can enable the
flags, while people who doesn't care about this can just
ignore/disable the warnings and keep their programs without need
for rewrite.
Also, using pragmas requires no change on the grammar, nor adding
new attributes that most people really dislike (I still don't get
why, probably the text editors should take care to make them less
distracting or even hiding them).
