On Sunday 23 January 2011 09:24:25 bearophile wrote:
> Jonathan M Davis:
> >Not necessarily. In fact, in general, the tact that has been taken with
> >Phobos is that you use assertions when you're verifying that Phobos is
> >correct, and you use enforce (or an if-statement which throws an
> >exception) when verifying that arguments given by outside code is
> >correct.<
> 
> Phobos is using enforce mostly as a temporary work-around of the fact that
> the DMD compiler is not able to automatically switch using a debug version
> of Phobos or a release version of it when you compile your code in
> notrelase or relasee mode, so currently contract assertions are vanished
> unless you are using a template.
> 
> Maybe some enforce() will be left in Phobos, but currently they 1) slow
> down code, 2) kill inlining, 2) there's no way to disable them, 4) turn
> nothrow functions into throw ones even if there is no need for this in
> their algorithm, so most of those enforces() will need to be killed from
> Phobos.

enforce is _not_ going away. What _has_ been discussed is having a non-lazy 
version of enforce for cases where we don't need a lazy version (but it still 
wouldn't be the default - if nothing else because that would change the 
behavior 
of code). There has also been some discussion of making the compiler smart 
enough to see that a particular paramater doesn't need to be lazy and make it 
non-lazy if that's the case (allowing you to use enforce both lazily and non-
lazily).

And there are plenty of functions in Phobos which _should_ be throwing. I 
actually don't expect that there are all that many functions in Phobos which 
are 
throwing which shouldn't be (though I'd have to check). I'd expect that there 
_are_ plenty however that could be made nothrow which haven't been (though we'd 
need a conditional nothrow of sorts for templates just like we need for pure if 
we want that to really work), but there are also plenty which _should_ be 
throwing. std.datetime throws quite a bit - typically on bad arguments - and it 
_should_. However, every function in there that can be marked as nothrow is.

> >All that DbC says is that the arguments that a caller gives a function
> >must meet certain requirements and that if they do, the result of the
> >function will meet certain requirements. Verifying that the contract is
> >kept has nothing to do with DbC. It's just good practice if you want to
> >minimize bugs.<
> 
> I don't believe this :-)

Well, believe what you like, but if you argue that DbC _requires_ that 
assertions be used, you're going to get people arguing with you.

- Jonathan M Davis

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