On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 at 10:11:25 UTC, evilrat wrote:

Would like to pay for something that's not exists where there is already like 10 "good enough"(tm) alternatives? How much people actually use D and willing to pay for that?

Another issue is that these hobby projects are not state of the art solutions, they stuck in early 90's (ok, maybe late 90's), where the rest of the world using different architectures and approaches that was evolved several times from then. And yet people who asks for UI libraries goes like "nah, no fancy schmancy CSS, and no markup. gimme good ol' programmatical approach" or "bloat bloat bloat, no thanks"

Regarding what you say on the state-of-the-art GUI/toolkits I should clarify that I am not against "modern" UI development. Everyone should work/code as they like and I am no-one to say the contrary. What I am against to is the idea of **unifying** the UIs for desktop and mobile resulting in sub-par experience for both of them -which is what happened.

That's the chicken-egg problem - no funding because no decent solutions, no decent solutions because such enormous effort requires compensation.

eg: postgreSQL is not on the edge of the state-of-the-art right now but it is closing the gap more than ever to the point that when there have to be a choice made on merits and not politicals it is making a dent in Oracle which is the 800-pound gorilla in this category -even against Microsoft's SQL Server which drives a lot of things in the enterprise/financial world.

eg: qGIS is another project widely used, and I mean **really** widely used for big projects not hobby projects; think city plans, dams, and the like -every day real world cases not fuss.

I speak of these because it is what I know of, there should be some more, but clearly, this is not the rule, this is the exception -and also have in mind that these two projects don't get indirectly managed by big corporations alla-linux these days.

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