On Saturday, 11 March 2023 at 13:18:13 UTC, rempas wrote:
Even if the first was the case (which again, only things that
need the GC will not be able to be used), D is far from been
"useless". You can use `betterC` and use C's libraries.
Personally, that's what I'm doing anyway. Even if there was no
garbage collector and a runtime, I still don't like Phobos and
the built-in structures of D. It is still far far better than
pretty much any other (compiled) language out there in case of
usability so it's not useless at all even if you cannot use the
standard library!
Hi rempas,
just wanted to answer to this one separately for two reasons,
first: I didn't want to sound aggressive or like I was trying to
bash D, sorry if it came across like that.
Second: I find it super interesting what you say about you not
actually liking Phobos and the built-in structures of D.
Although I have not seen very much yet, I think I have to agree
to that.
Although I come from a C++ background, I'm not exactly a fanboy
of that language (you can probably tell, otherwise I wouldn't be
here).
But after hearing praise for D for being a cleaner and better
version of C/C++, I am a bit disappointed so far, tbh. I don't
want to go into too much detail here to not derail the thread
entirely, but I think it repeats too many old sins, like implicit
type conversions, the `for` loop syntax (although I guess one
wouldn't need it that often because of `foreach`), the `switch`
`case` fallthrough, and the cancerous `const` (as far as I can
tell, `immutable` is an even worse flavor of it).
Despite all of that, I can't argue with the fact that it may
still be the best compiled language currently around. Sadly
enough, though, imo that isn't that much of a compliment. :)
