Denis Koroskin wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:48:39 +0300, Alex Burton <alex...@mac.com> wrote:

I think it makes no sense to have nullable pointers in a high level language like D.

In D :

X x = new X;
This is a bit redundant, if we take away the ability to write X x; to mean X x = 0; then we can have X x; mean X x = new X; If the class has a ctor then we can write X x(32); instead of X x = new X(32); Only when the types of the pointer and class are different do we need to write X x = new Y; We can do this syntactically in D because classes cannot be instantiated on the stack (unless scope is used, which I have found a bit pointless, as members are not scope so no deterministic dtor)

This makes the code much less verbose and allows code to change from X being a struct to X being a class without having to go around and change all the X x; to X = new X;

As I said in the nullable types thread:
Passing 0 or 0x012345A or anything else that is not a pointer to an instance of X to a variable declared as X x is the same as mixing in a bicycle when a recipe asks for a cup of olive oil.

There are much better, and less error prone ways to write code in a high level language than allowing null pointers.

Alex

I remember Andrei has showed interest in unification of the way value and reference types are instantiated:

Foo foo(arg1, arg2); // valid instance, be it reference of value type
Bar bar; // same here (default ctor is called)

and ditch 'new' keyword altogether.

That would be nice but Walter says he dislikes a dynamic allocation going under the covers.

Note that you can't delete non-nullable reference so 'delete' keyword is not needed, too (use scope instead). Nullable types, however, may be recycled with e.g. GC.delete(foo);

Delete-ing either non- or yes-nullable references is just as dangerous. IMHO the delete facility of the GC should be eliminated. (Long story.)


Andrei

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