Le 13/11/2012 08:48, Sönke Ludwig a écrit :
Am 13.11.2012 00:46, schrieb Walter Bright:
On 11/9/2012 5:53 AM, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
Independent of this article I think D is currently missing out a lot by
omitting a proper unique type (a _proper_ library solution would be a
start, but I'm not sure if that can handle all details). It would make a
lot of the cases work that are currently simply not practical because of
loads of casts that are necessary.

Unique as a type qualifier comes with all kinds of subtle problems. For one 
thing, unique is more of
a property of an expression rather than a property of the type.

But I was thinking - what if it's a storage class? Like ref is? Working through 
the use cases in my
head, I think it can work. Unique being a property of an expression, this can 
be tested upon
assignment to the unique variable. Upon reading that unique variable, the value 
of it is erased.

Function parameters can be qualified with "unique" as well, meaning their 
corresponding arguments
can only be unique expressions.


Currently I also see no reason why this should not be possible. Since it is 
acting recursively and
locally anyway, a storage class will probably capture almost everything that a 
full type would. I
had thought about the same route to reduce intrusiveness, before looking first 
what's possible with
a pure library solution.

The library solution seems surprisingly practical for some use cases. With the concept of 
"string"
and "weak" isolation (*), it can even handle the bridge between isolated and 
shared memory (thanks
to the completely separated nature of shared). By this, it solves a lot of the 
problems that only
Bartosz system was able to solve, for example declaring owned collections (no 
Mutex necessary),
which contain references to shared data, and still everything is safely checked.


BTW, do you have a link to Bartosz's proposal ?

A proper language feature can still do a lot more and IMO D should get there at 
some point - but I
think this is a viable short/mid-term alternative. I would like to get some 
discussion going to
eventually include something in phobos.


(*)

strong isolation: allows only strongly isolated and immutable references
  ->  can be passed to other threads and casts implicitly to immutable

weak isolation: allows weakly isolated, immutable and shared references
  ->  can only be passed to other threads

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