On Sunday, 2 December 2012 at 21:37:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/2/2012 10:26 PM, Johannes Pfau wrote:
Avoiding breaking code is always a good goal, but I think it's
too
early for phobos. Code like std.xml, std.outbuffer should have
never
been a part of phobos. I think one last big break would be
best for
everyone.
No, no, no!
Right now we have can't promise not to break code because
we can't keep and support code like std.xml forever
Yes, we can (or at least for a very long time).
but we also can't
simply remove std.xml because we try to avoid breaking code.
So we
deprecate small parts of modules in every release which is a
pita for
everyone. Dropping all sub-par code and fixing naming
conventions in
one release would get us a clean restart without all that
cruft.
No, it won't, because names are a bikeshedding thing and every
group of name changes spawns more name change proposals. Every
big break (and we've done them before) spawns more big break
proposals. We have to stop doing this, or D will never ever
advance.
The existence of std.xml that is ignored and left out of the
documentation is not going to discourage people from using D,
but constantly telling people they have to rewrite their
existing, working, and stable code will, as the start of this
thread shows.
And how do you conciliate that with dropping every new stuff
directly into master ?
