On 23.01.2013 06:42, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 1/22/13 3:36 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/22/2013 11:46 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 1/22/13 2:48 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/21/2013 10:56 PM, ric wrote:
Would it be reasonable to put an option whether to produce the (too)
verbose
json output or the minimal one?

I'd rather we make a decision.

Verbose should probably be it.

Rationale?

You can always filter out the verboseness with a simple program, but you
can't add missing information.

If the efficiency of generating json ever comes up, _then_ it's worth
looking into an option that produces less verbose output directly. For
now be verbose and let downstream tools filter it out.


Andrei


I updated dmd from github and had a look at the current json output: it's horrible. Below is a random example of a simple function.

- the function parameters are listed three times with different type information

- "originalType" seems to be always shown, even though it probably was meant to if it is different from "type"

- if the parameter identifiers are listed separately anyway, they should not be part of the type while the types do not have to be repeated n the actual parameter list

- package and module are specified inconsistently, sometimes as an array of strings, sometimes in dot-notation, sometimes not at all.

- types are sometimes shown expanded, sometimes not (e.g. "string")

- template instantiations from imported source files are listed

- functions and template instantiations that are only used at compile time are listed

- I appreciate that some missing information has been added, like imports and storage class

- renamed imports don't show the original module name

- functions implemented through template mixins are not listed

- surprisingly the average output has only become about 10 times larger for a medium sized project like Visual D (73 MB instead of 8 MB). Having only std.json available for reading it, I suspect it will definitely have an impact on IDE performance, though.

I understand that most of these issues are QOI issues but it also seems that there is also a shift in the target usage of the JSON output. It was a means for source code browsing with output similar to generated di files, while it is now showing everything written into object files similar to debug info. Some of this can easily be filtered out (e.g. "template instance") but not all (e.g. functions from other modules only used in CTFE).

So I think that we should remove excessive bloat (e.g. always specify package and module lists in dot notation), make output more consistent and avoid listing the same type again and again. If a type is specified by its mangled name in declarations, add it to a dictionary at the end of the json file in its full verbosity. (I agree core.demangle does not help you if you want to do anything more than just getting the pretty type string). Please be aware that you will have to document the JSON type format in addition to the existing name mangling, though.

Rainer

--------
JSON output for
void setAttribute(Element elem, string attr, string val);

dmd 2.061:
{
"name" : "setAttribute",
"kind" : "function",
"protection" : "public",
"type" : "void(Element elem, string attr, string val)",
"line" : 37}
,


dmd 2.062alpha:
   {
    "name" : "setAttribute",
    "kind" : "function",
    "loc" : {
     "line" : 37
    },
    "module" : {
     "name" : "xmlwrap",
     "kind" : "module",
     "package" : [
      "visuald"
     ],
     "prettyName" : "visuald.xmlwrap"
    },
    "type" : {
     "kind" : "function",
     "pretty" : "void(Element elem, string attr, string val)",
     "returnType" : {
      "kind" : "void",
      "pretty" : "void"
     },
     "parameters" : [
      {
       "name" : "elem",
       "type" : {
        "kind" : "class",
        "pretty" : "std.xml.Element"
       }
      },
      {
       "name" : "attr",
       "type" : {
        "kind" : "darray",
        "pretty" : "string",
        "elementType" : {
         "kind" : "char",
         "pretty" : "immutable(char)",
         "modifiers" : " immutable"
        }
       }
      },
      {
       "name" : "val",
       "type" : {
        "kind" : "darray",
        "pretty" : "string",
        "elementType" : {
         "kind" : "char",
         "pretty" : "immutable(char)",
         "modifiers" : " immutable"
        }
       }
      }
     ]
    },
    "originalType" : {
     "kind" : "function",
     "pretty" : "void(Element elem, string attr, string val)",
     "returnType" : {
      "kind" : "void",
      "pretty" : "void"
     },
     "parameters" : [
      {
       "name" : "elem",
       "type" : {
        "kind" : "identifier",
        "pretty" : "Element",
        "idents" : [],
        "rawIdentifier" : "Element",
        "identifier" : "Element"
       }
      },
      {
       "name" : "attr",
       "type" : {
        "kind" : "identifier",
        "pretty" : "string",
        "idents" : [],
        "rawIdentifier" : "string",
        "identifier" : "string"
       }
      },
      {
       "name" : "val",
       "type" : {
        "kind" : "identifier",
        "pretty" : "string",
        "idents" : [],
        "rawIdentifier" : "string",
        "identifier" : "string"
       }
      }
     ]
    },
    "parameters" : [
     {
      "name" : "elem",
      "kind" : "variable",
      "loc" : {
       "line" : 37
      },
      "module" : {
       "name" : "xmlwrap",
       "kind" : "module",
       "package" : [
        "visuald"
       ],
       "prettyName" : "visuald.xmlwrap"
      },
      "type" : {
       "kind" : "class",
       "pretty" : "std.xml.Element"
      }
     },
     {
      "name" : "attr",
      "kind" : "variable",
      "loc" : {
       "line" : 37
      },
      "module" : {
       "name" : "xmlwrap",
       "kind" : "module",
       "package" : [
        "visuald"
       ],
       "prettyName" : "visuald.xmlwrap"
      },
      "type" : {
       "kind" : "darray",
       "pretty" : "string",
       "elementType" : {
        "kind" : "char",
        "pretty" : "immutable(char)",
        "modifiers" : " immutable"
       }
      }
     },
     {
      "name" : "val",
      "kind" : "variable",
      "loc" : {
       "line" : 37
      },
      "module" : {
       "name" : "xmlwrap",
       "kind" : "module",
       "package" : [
        "visuald"
       ],
       "prettyName" : "visuald.xmlwrap"
      },
      "type" : {
       "kind" : "darray",
       "pretty" : "string",
       "elementType" : {
        "kind" : "char",
        "pretty" : "immutable(char)",
        "modifiers" : " immutable"
       }
      }
     }
    ],
    "endloc" : {
     "line" : 40
    }
   },

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