On Sat, 25 May 2013 22:44:52 -0700 "H. S. Teoh" <hst...@quickfur.ath.cx> wrote: > > Like I've said many times before, the only way I found coding in C++ > tolerable was to use it as "C with classes". Trying to do real OO in > C++ is an exercise in masochism. Even Java with its baroque verbosity > and prolific boilerplates beats C++ hands-down in this respect. >
I always used to consider myself comfortable with C/C++ until I came across Java. To mix metaphors, that was a double-edged eye-opener: Java (this was circa v1.2-v1.4) taught me everything that was wrong with C++'s classes and *cough* module system, but it *also* taught me that Java wasn't the answer either. ;)