On Friday, 5 July 2013 at 02:45:47 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:
On Thursday, 4 July 2013 at 21:31:43 UTC, TommiT wrote:
On Thursday, 4 July 2013 at 20:43:45 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:

Implementation may do other way, at first instantiate template (with deduced type) and then try to plug arguments as in case of non-template function (including implicit conversion). If it cannot, implementation issues error message for a particular problem and then general "template error instantiation".

Well, it doesn't really matter how it is implemented. What matters is that the implicit conversion does happen.

Issue in this case is not that it happens per se (of course, it does), but whether implicit conversion influences type deduction. As it was mentioned previously about particular example, it does not.

Of course implicit conversion influences type deduction. If it didn't, if implicit conversion didn't have any say in type deduction, then the call foo(sa) would not compile. The compiler needs to know, and thus has to be influenced by the knowledge of implicit conversion, in order to be able to deduce T to be int.


On Friday, 5 July 2013 at 02:45:47 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:

What are your points regarding type deduction and implicit conversion in D?

I thought my point would have been made painstakingly clear by now. My point is that D behaves in a way that's very different from C++ or any other language which does heterogeneous translation of type parameters. And I've never seen any mention of this neither in the spec nor in TDPL (nor have I seen this discussed before). This difference should be mentioned somewhere newcomers are guaranteed to see it.

Please provide evidence which support your point about D. Previous example doesn't do that. Piece of dmd implementation is appreciated. Otherwise claims about what implementation does are of little value.

The evidence of that D behaves differently from C++ is that foo(sa) compiles. I only talked about a possible implementation of it in DMD in order to explain this thing to you. But the actual implementation of it in DMD doesn't matter.

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