On 2 September 2013 22:51, Dicebot <pub...@dicebot.lv> wrote: > On Monday, 2 September 2013 at 03:51:54 UTC, Manu wrote: > >> On 2 September 2013 05:20, Jacob Carlborg <d...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Gave up? Why not just use DMD directly from the zip on the command line >>> and use TextMate or Sublime. TextMate 2 supports in app download of new >>> languages and Sublime comes with support for D out of the box. Even >>> though >>> it's not perfect it has to be better than giving up. >>> >>> >> I dunno. People just don't do that. >> It's perceived that typing commands in the command line is a completely >> unrealistic workflow for most people that doesn't love linux. >> > > It is more of a cultural issue than real tool stack issue. Yes, I am > perfectly aware that Microsoft has succeeded in creating incredibly closed > and tool-oriented programming environment and also succeeded to create lot > of programmers that accept it as the only possible way to do things. I am > perfectly aware that game dev industry is completely Microsoft-centric and > is forced to accept such rules of the game. > > But do you seriously expect anyone with no personal business interest to > work on brining more of such crap into something that is not broken? You > would have had my sympathy but demand "Let's force everyone to use IDE" is > just insane. All this thread would have made some sense if some enterprise > D entity has existed but it simply does not work that way right now. And, > to be honest, I am glad about it. >
Okay, I clearly made my claim too strongly, but I still think it would be valuable for basically everyone to try it out every now and then, and understand the experience on offer. Sure, each to their own thing... I just wanted to stress that a higher consideration to the end-user experience wouldn't go astray.