On Monday, 2 September 2013 at 13:46:33 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 2 September 2013 21:37, Jos van Uden <use...@fwend.com>
wrote:
On 1-9-2013 20:00, bearophile wrote:
Manu:
Seriously, how do you quickly read and understand the API
through the
noise?
The noise increases if you have to repeat the class name for
each method
:-)
+1
Really? You both think seeing the function signature a second
time at the
definition is 'noisy' when compared to massive blocks of
arbitrarily
indented function body code consuming the entire class
definition, and
completely breaking up your code window?
A few function bodies and you can't see anything anymore. You
have to
scroll miles to get an overview of the class, and try and
remember each
function header along the way as you scroll by; you can never
digest it
cleanly in one place.
My memory's not that good... So you end up scrolling up and
down and up and
down and up and down, and then inevitably, get off your arse,
walk over,
and interrupt the guy that wrote it.
That's a waste of my time, it's a waste of their time, and in
an office
environment, it's a waste of money.
So, I find it extremely useful being able to see the members
and functions
available listed in a row all together. I can quickly gather a
fairly
complete mental picture.
Everyone on the weekend agreed with me, none of us could
immediately
understand the classes we were working with. Productivity being
the key
element in our exercise, and it demonstrably impacted our
productivity.
But whatever. I just threw it in there because it was a
recurring topic,
and I thought it was worth mentioning.
I think there is a way to please both sides.
I Eiffel there is a (standard) way to show only the definition
and/or the interface of a class. It shouldn't be much of a work
to have the D compiler (or some utility, but that'd be
considerably more work) spit out those, too.
While I don't agree with Manu's wish to handle D classes C++
style I do quite well see the value of a clean definition
skeletton/API/interface overview.
A+ -R