On Monday, 20 January 2014 at 23:38:39 UTC, Moritz Maxeiner wrote:
On Monday, 20 January 2014 at 22:39:53 UTC, Chris wrote:
I managed to install Arch Linux with Manjaro. I could install
dub and dmd without any problems. The installation of Manjaro
failed in UEFI mode, although it said it had been successful,
it didn't work. I reinstalled it in classic mode with the
stable installer and now it works. Now I'm testing it. So far
everything works out of the box (wifi etc.) (unlike Ubuntu
that gave me an effin headache).
I still believe that UEFI is just another trick to scare
people away from Linux.
Have you tried setting up UEFI manually
(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#UEFI_systems_2) ?
Since Manjaro is Arch-based the wiki should mostly still
apply. I have setup UEFI with Arch on several systems so far
without any issues, but as the page states, different
manufacturers implement UEFI differently. If you run into any
UEFI issues, you might want to report them, so they can be
fixed / others can avoid that hardware if the need working UEFI.
I tried the test installer provided by Manjaro. The standard
installer doesn't support UEFI (yet). The installer said
everything had been set up (efi partition etc.), but the
installation failed somehow. I was lazy and didn't partition
manually but used the auto-partitioning option.
(cf. http://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=UEFI_-_Install_Guide)
Then I just changed to legacy mode and installed with the stable
installer. It's working now. I'd like to give UEFI another go,
but there's always some issue. Ubuntu can handle it
automatically, though.
Further off topic: SecureBoot might be a trick to scare people
away from Linux, but UEFI? It brings direct boot into 64 bit
long mode (making a lot of initialisation assembly code
obsolete) and if you want, you can even get rid of a normal
bootloader and directly boot up a kernel (efistub). While it is
true that several manufacturers seem to implement it in a way
that complicates / causes issues for Linux and it certainly
could be made better / more implementations of it
standard-compliant, I think UEFI is still a step up from BIOS.
True, true. But I have a feeling that standardization /
simplification is not really a priority, because it makes the
installation of linux systems nigh impossible for normal users
who are not tech savvy. MS sure won't complain about this
situation ;)
