On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 19:27:32 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 18:28:02 UTC, Chris wrote:
How so? Imagine you write a song and someone else has a hit
with it. Why shouldn't you get a piece of the cake?
Why should I? Once it is published, it is out wild. If I was
going to earn on it, I'd gather as much as possible _before_ it
is published (== kickstarter). Of course, if someone else
pretends he is actually author of a song, this is completely
different story.
Also, imagine someone uses something you have the copyright on
for things you don't agree with (Nazis, the KKK whoever),
isn't good that you can stop them from using your work to
promote their cause?
No. Never. Full stop. Restricting something simply because you
don't like it / can't agree with it is reliable way to get
restricted yourself. It is essentially same thing as freedom of
speech. There are better ways to oppose Nazis.
Ok. Imagine you write a song called "Destroy!" (maybe having
traditions and rules in mind). Two things happen:
1. A band records it (or puts it on youtube) and has a hit. They
respect your authorship, say "Thanks, buddy!", but they get all
the money.
2. A bunch of racists use the song (because of the titles) for
one of their hate rallies, pointing at minorities and singing
"Destroy! Destroy!".
Case 1: As long as there are so many c*nts out there (and there
are many rats among musicians), you want to have some kind of way
of not being ripped off.
Case 2: You cannot always prevent these things, but if someone
takes your art (= what your mind & soul produced) and uses it in
a completely perverted way, you won't feel good about it.
In a perfect world, I agree, there wouldn't be all that copyright
bullshit. After all, these laws only protect the interests of the
rich and powerful, and it kills (as has been said here)
creativity in music. I agree. I once wanted to send some of my
songs to people and was warned against it by people who had been
in the business "once it's out there, you can't claim the
copyright/authorship anymore". And knowing how people are, I
desisted from sending them to a broader audience. I still don't
know what to do in this respect. I'd like to share the music, but
I know how people are.
Why should a composer, band or author not have the copyright
on his/her own work and not see any money for it?
Why can't they do it without relying on copyright? ;)
How would that work?
Have already seen several successful Kickstarter projects that
had wording akin to "We need X $ to record this album". I
sincerely think that such model is most honest approach to
producing elements of culture. And if sound labels finally get
the idea of subscription-based music distribution, it makes
perfect sense to simply hire some proven artists "full-time"
same way one may do with sport stars. There are variety of
options once you abandon idea of copyright and try to adjust
consuming model istead of trying to adjust laws. Music won't be
the way to become rich and famous then but I think it is a good
thing.
