On Sunday, 2 February 2014 at 12:42:47 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:52:44 Timon Gehr wrote:
On 02/02/2014 04:39 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> I'm not sure how I feel about that, particularly since I > haven't seen such > data myself. My natural reaction when people complain about > null pointer > problems is that they're sloppy programmers (which isn't > necessarily fair,
> but that's my natural reaction).

There is no such thing as 'naturality' that is magically able to justify
personal attacks in a technical discussion, even if qualified.

Would you prefer that I had said "initial reaction" or "gut reaction?" I'm just saying that that's how I tend to feel when I see complaints about null pointers. I have never accused anyone of anything or otherwise attacked them because they complained about null pointers. That _would_ be rude.

The situation does not have to be unbearable in order to
improve it!

True, but I don't even agree that null pointers are that big a deal in the first place. If we really want to add non-nullable pointers or references to the language, then we can. I don't think that that's necessarily a bad idea. But I doubt that I'll use them often, and I do think that the whole issue is
frequently blown out of proportion.

- Jonathan M Davis

Ideally you'd be using them wherever you use objects and pointers, as they'd be the default.

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