On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:48:16 -0400, Walter Bright <newshou...@digitalmars.com> wrote:

On 3/26/2014 7:19 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
if(!r.empty)
{
    auto r2 = map!(x => x * 2)(r);
    do
    {
       auto x = r2.front;
       ...
    } while(!r2.empty);
}

Should we be required to re-verify that r2 is not empty before using it? It clearly is not, and would be an artificial requirement (one that map likely
would not enforce!).

This sounds so much like a convention that simply won't be followed, and the
result will be perfectly valid code.

The idea is that there are three functions: empty, front, and popFront. The functionality of the range will be distributed between these 3 functions. Different things being ranged over will naturally split their operations into the 3 functions in different ways.

If the 3 functions can be called in any order, then extra logic has to be added to them to signal to each other. This slows things down.

To write generic code calling ranges, it's necessary to stop assuming what is happening under the hood of empty, front, and popFront, and stick to the protocol.

OK, but it's logical to assume you *can* avoid a call to empty if you know what's going on under the hood, no? Then at that point, you have lost the requirement -- people will avoid calling empty because they can get away with it, and then altering the under-the-hood requirements cause code breakage later.

Case in point, the pull request I referenced, the author originally tried to just use empty to lazily initialize filter, but it failed due to existing code in phobos that did not call empty on filtered data before processing. He had to instrument all 3 calls.

-Steve

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