On Monday, 7 April 2014 at 07:38:40 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 01:45:16 -0700, Paulo Pinto
<pj...@progtools.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 April 2014 at 21:43:05 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:36:56 -0700, Orvid King
<blah38...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:24:00 -0500, Paulo Pinto
<pj...@progtools.org> wrote:
So it finally happened, C# gets an AOT compiler in addition
to NGEN/JIT
as part of standard Visual Studio tools.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/02/microsoft-updates-visual-studio-with-support-for-universal-projects-typescript-1-0-and-net-native-code-compilation/
More information will be provided in the native sessions
tomorrow and on
Friday.
Posting this as it has direct implications into D's
adoption.
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Paulo
NGen's been around since .net 2.0, all the native
compilation is that they are talking about is just a few
stubs and a nice pretty interface for developers to work
with. They do not currently intend to support the AOT
compilation for desktops, not in the way that D does at
least. Microsoft's AOT interface will also only ever support
Windows. If Apple is very lucky, they might support it on
OSX, but it will never make it to Linux. All in all, this
news is basically no news :P It's also been possible to AOT
compile a .net program with mono on linux and deploy it with
no dependencies for quite a while now.
Incorrect. It is a fully AOT compiler using the Visual C++
backend. NGen assemblies are incredibly fragile and machine
specific, by using the VC++ backend they have eliminated that
problem. It's not the Native C# language that has been talked
about, but it is definitely a step in the right direction.
Actually it is.
http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Inside-NET-Native
@00:12:00
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Paulo
Erm. No it's not. That project is called M#, it is a different
language than C#. M# has a different but related set of
keywords/syntax compared to C#. The similarity is that they
both use the VC++ backend, but that is a more a case of
technology re-use than any meaningful relationship.
Sorry but you are wrong, they clearly state in several occasions
that Project N, discussed at Visual Studio 2013 launch event is
.NET Native.
If you wish I can track down all minutes from those presentations
where such statements are issued.
M# is nothing more than a research project, that for what we
know, like Midori, it won't ever see the light of the day outside
Microsoft Research.
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Paulo
