On 5/16/2014 3:15 PM, David Gileadi wrote:
On 5/16/14, 11:52 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
But then using it as a GUI engine and software platform is like abusing
Latex or PDF to make software run inside Acrobat Viewer. All the effort,
bloat and compromises...and for what point?

I assume that question is mostly rhetorical, because of course the point
for many companies is that while some subset of users may have Acrobat
Viewer installed, everyone has a browser.

My point was just to illustrate the absurdity of contorting a document format into an applications platform.

As an irrelevent side note with no particular point being made: Acrobat Viewer is still depressingly common, and I'd say PDF viewers in general are about as ubiquitous as web browsers.

Compare the process of
installing a native app (even on simple devices like phones) to the
single click for loading a web app. Add to that making sure the user
gets timely bug fixes and new features and it's easy to see why web apps
make sense for many companies.

It's just tragic that the format for them evolved through HTML; it's
become monstrous and deformed in all the ways you've discussed.

Yea. See, none of those perceived benefits of web apps have ever actually required web browsers at all. It would have taken less effort to build those benefits *outside* of web browsers, than what has already gone into the endless failed attempts to de-shitify "web as an applications platform". But no, everything's run by managers, and managers want quick fixes because they don't comprehend hidden costs. :(

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