On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:43:43 -0400, Walter Bright <newshou...@digitalmars.com> wrote:

Having optional parentheses does lead to unresolvable ambiguities. How much of a problem that really is is debatable, but let's assume it should be resolved. To resolve it, a property must be distinguishable from a regular function.

One way is to simply add a "property" attribute keyword:

   property bool empty() { ... }
   property void empty(bool b) { ... }

The problem is that:

1. there are a lot of keywords already
2. keywords are global things

The alternative is to have a unique syntax for properties. Ideally, the syntax should be intuitive and mimic its use. After much fiddling, and based on n.g. suggestions, Andrei and I penciled in:

   bool empty { ... }
   void empty=(bool b) { ... }

The only problem is when a declaration but not definition is desired:

   bool empty;

but oops! That defines a field. So we came up with essentially a hack:

   bool empty{}

i.e. the {} means the getter is declared, but defined elsewhere.

What do you think?

I have to confess, I thought I wrote my last reply for property debate...

As for the proposed syntax, the setter syntax looks acceptable, but I don't really like the getter syntax.

I can't think of a really good analagous setter symbol to =. Some of the other syntaxes I've seen show promise such as:

bool empty.get { ... }
void empty.set(bool b) {...}

One thing to consider is if it should be possible to take a delegate of a property setter or getter, how do you identify the property function itself? This solution provides an easy way:

&empty.get
&empty.set

The only issue with this is if the type returned from the getter actually defines a get field or method. While having a method called get might be a likely possibility, having that on a type that is likely to be returned as a property is probably unlikely. There is of course a workaround:

empty.get().get();

-or-

auto tmp = empty;
tmp.get();

to call the underlying method.

Another option is to name the getter and setter something less likely to be used, such as opGet/opSet or _get/_set. Finally, you could have a renaming rule that would allow access to the function. For example empty.get translates to get_empty(), so if you called get_empty() it would call the getter. C# does something like this.

Yet another option is to involve some sort of punctuation, e.g.:

empty.get(); // call the returned type's get function
&em...@get;  // delegate to the getter.

Note that the only one of these that makes a lot of sense for the property keyword solution (or your solution) is the renaming empty to get_empty().

I'm glad to see that this might actually be addressed.

-Steve

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