Otherwise if you like D, then try to
improve it from the inside, writing dmd/Phobos/druntime pull
requests,
instead of doing it from the outside.
I'd never have my PR's pulled.
I'm also not as interested in language development as it might
appear.
I'm interested in writing code and getting work done, and
minimising
friction.
I'm interested in more efficient ways to get my work done, and
also
opportunities to write more efficient code, but that doesn't
mean I
want to stop doing my work and instead work on HOW I do my work.
I find myself in a very awkward situation where I'm too far
in... I can't go back to C++,
Have you taken a look at Rust?
Yeah, it's just too weird for me to find realistic. It also more
rigidly asserts it's opinions on you, which are in many cases,
not
optimal. Rust typically shows a performance disadvantage, which
I care
about.
Perhaps more importantly, for practical reasons, I can't ever
imagine
convincing a studio of hundreds of programmers to switch to
rust. C++
programmers can learn D by osmosis, but staff retraining burden
to
move to Rust seems completely unrealistic to me.
You're a vital alternative voice, please try to stick with us.
The interest your talk and presence generated for D was huge and
the games industry should be a major target for D. I also suspect
Andrei is doing a major project at the moment which is making him
uncharacteristically harsh in his responses, from his POV he's
doing something massive to help D while the community has gone
into a negative mode.
I'm surprised at the lack of importance insufficient control over
ref seems to be given, though my understanding is pretty basic.
It feels a little similar to inlining.
It might be an effective argument to give bearophile some of the
problematic code and see what his idiomatic D version looks like
and if what you're after is elegantly achievable. Clunky code
would seem like a stronger argument at this point after many
words have been exchanged. I think people are not really aware of
the issues and if they believe the things are truly achievable
with the language as it stands they can demonstrate it, with
benchmarks etc.
