On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 07:04:43 UTC, Manu wrote:
Lifetime 'this' probably also needs to exist, for objects that return
members by ref.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, this is a parameter like another. There is just syntax sugar to pass it around implicitely.

I think this covers practically all useful cases. What problem cases
remain? Returning a global by ref?
I should think that can also be supported easily enough; return by ref
without lifetime implies global lifetime, and the function would
compile error when trying to return a local/member/argument that way.


global lifetime by default for ref return do not make any sense IMO. It is very uncommon to return a ref to something you just allocated on the GC (why don't you return it directly ?) or to a static.

If we can make lifetime explicit, I see no reason not to add a way to specify infinite lifetime.

I agree with you. I'm completely unsatisfied with the current
proposals, or 'plans', as I think they have been promoted.

Yup, I'm afraid that once they are in the wild, it is gonna solve the problem short term, but only one aspect of it, and ultimately get in the way to a more general solution.

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