On Monday, 23 March 2015 at 21:34:09 UTC, Jake The Baker wrote:
If D had an ide that could do the following I think development
and testing could be better managed.
1. IDE that works with a centralized server to be able to
change D versions at a drop of a time. e.g., click "Master" and
it checks to see if you have the latest, if not it downloads
it, configures it, and sets it up hands free to be used. (If it
requires any interaction to work then it is a bug)
2. Patches, bugs, and everything else can be accessed through
this IDE. Collaboration can be made between groups of people
and individuals. Announcements could be made by head honchos.
(In fact, this software could be more generic and used by
anyone for any purpose of collaboration in programming... e.g.
with php).
One can see open bugs, issues, workarounds, etc at a click.
3. Projects could be collaborated on easily with people being
able to "watch"(RD) another persons session(say for debugging
help or whatever).
4. The ability to connect resources to projects. e.g. insert a
note over a function that links to the D documentation about a
bug.
5. etc.
If such an IDE existed so that anyone could simply run it, open
a "bug" and start working without having to go through a
massive change(by quick, I mean click of a button), then I
think people would be more willing to help.
The number one reason I don't contribute is that I don't have
the time to dedicate to maintain all the knowledge and
software/organization to fit it in my schedule.
I suspect that is most everyone excuse too.
I don't want to spend 30mins to an hour to download the latest
version, compile it if I have to, make sure all the
configuration stuff is correct, create a setup program... just
to find out there is a bug in the latest version at the end.
I'm simply not that dedicated to D. Again, I suspect most
people aren't. You have really dedicated people here but not
enough to get everything that needs to be done, done.
Instead, find out how to leverage all the people that would
help if you make it worth their time.
It might be slower in the short term but better in the long
term.
In 10 more years I doubt Andrei or Walter will have as much
energy to do all the work that they are doing... Better build
the infrastructure now while there is time.
VCS (Git in this case) and Make are tools of the trade. If a
developer cannot use these tools following instructions provided
in the Wiki [1] they probably won't have much in the way of
useful contributions to Phobos or the compiler.
Bye,
lobo
[1] http://wiki.dlang.org/Pull_Requests