MiOn Sunday, 19 April 2015 at 02:20:01 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
On 18/04/15 21:40, Walter Bright wrote:

I'm not arguing against the existence of the Unicode standard, I'm saying I can't figure any justification for standardizing different
encodings of the same thing.


A lot of areas in Unicode are due to pre-Unicode legacy.

I'm guessing here, but looking at the code points, é (U00e9 - Latin small letter E with acute), which comes from Latin-1, which is designed to follow ISO-8859-1. U0301 (Combining acute accent) comes from "Combining diacritical marks".

The way I understand things, Unicode would really prefer to use U0065+U0301 rather than U00e9. Because of legacy systems, and because they would rather have the ISO-8509 code pages be 1:1 mappings, rather than 1:n mappings, they introduced code points they really would rather do without.

This also explains the "presentation forms" code pages (e.g. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFB00.pdf). These were intended to be glyphs, rather than code points. Due to legacy reasons, it was not possible to simply discard them. They received code points, with a warning not to use these code points directly.

Also, notice that some letters can only be achieved using multiple code points. Hebrew diacritics, for example, do not, typically, have a composite form. My name fully spelled (which you rarely would do), שַׁחַר, cannot be represented with less than 6 code points, despite having only three letters.

The last paragraph isn't strictly true. You can use UFB2C + U05B7 for the first letter instead of U05E9 + U05C2 + U05B7. You would be using the presentation form which, as pointed above, is only there for legacy.

Shachar
or shall I say
שחר

Yes Arabic is similar too

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