On Monday, 13 July 2015 at 10:12:33 UTC, Faux Amis wrote:
On Mon 13/07/2015 06:29, ChangLong wrote:
On Sunday, 12 July 2015 at 12:14:31 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
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What do you think about the future for D in the web service
space?
I has use vibe.d for a small project recently, after finish
that I
think the follow fact will
prevent many programmers use vibe.d in commercial projects:
1) Lack of successful open source project for real product
2) Multi thread performance is poor, scalability is not suit
for big
project
3) No Inversion of Control (aka: Dependency Injection) Concept
4) No mature ORM/ODM components
5) No Form/Validator/Translation/Locale Components
6) No modernize framework
Some company has successful story in D use no-GC solution, for
example:
Sociomantic, Hedge Fund by Andy Smith, weka.io... And they
all are
close source.
There are thousands of web projects in development every day,
D is not
use as development languages mainly because D is not ready yet.
2) I have zero experience with going beyond one thread, but as
far as I understand it multi-threading is not how vibe is
supposed to scale. Start up another instance will you!
multi instance will help. In my project the vibe.d is slow down
after I open too much task(reptile network analysis). Maybe
LDC/GDC will help, but compare to nodejs or scale, scalability
still is weakness point for vibe.d.
3) It has been work-in-progress for some time now:
http://vibed.org/features#load-balancing
Not sure what the status of this is though.
load-balancing has nothing to do with Inversion of Control,
check this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_of_control
4) Dunno about that..
ORM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-relational_mapping
ODM is like ORM but with non-relation database
5) Well, there is this:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/vibe.d/blob/master/source/vibe/utils/validation.d
and:
http://vibed.org/docs#web-localization
That is good start.
6) What is that?
I mean like expressjs/sailsjs for nodejs, rails for ruby,
symfony/laravel for php. vibe.d is not a framework but a
infrastructure
In my experience, vibe.d is a beautiful alternative to node.js
and it is not the immaturity of D that is holding it back,
vibe.d just needs to grow a bit.
Like I said, not ready yet.
