On Saturday, 5 September 2015 at 19:59:03 UTC, bitwise wrote:
Thanks for the explanation, but could you give an example of how Stream would be rangified?

In the containers I'm writing, I'm returning a range from the findAll() function instead of an array:
https://github.com/bitwise-github/d-containers/blob/master/collections/list.d#L901

I suppose any method returning an array/string could work like this...Is this what you mean?

It doesn't seem like the entire Stream class should have to be removed to make this change though.

I would have to study the problem to give a good answer. It's been too long since I looked at the issue for me to remember the finer details at this point. IIRC, a big part of the problem had something to do with the fact that you essentially want a range of bytes, but the underlying C APIs really give something more like a range of a range of bytes, because you read the data into a buffer rather than reading it a byte at a time (which gets even further complicated by the fact that you generally want to reuse that buffer and not allocate extra memory if you can avoid it). On some level at least, that's the problem that byLine and byChunk in std.stdio run into. I really don't remember the details of what needed to be done differently for solid stream support though.

But all of the stuff relating to getting objects out of a byte stream can almost certainly be done by building it on top of a range of bytes rather than having any of that talk to the disk or generally care where the data comes from, and I very much doubt that std.stream does anything like that. So, at minimum, what std.stream does would have to be shifted so that all of the transformations are done on top of ranges of ubyte rather than talking to the disk or network stack or whatever. But I'd have to go digging through the code to even know what std.stream does right now, and I don't have the time right now to figure out how it should work. It's been discussed before, and it was decided that what's there was not what we wanted, though how far off it is, I really don't know other than the fact that it's not range-based. Any stream solution should be consuming and producing ranges and should be agnostic to wherever the data comes from unless it has a _really_ good reason not to be.

Steven Schveighoffer has been working off and on on a replacement for std.stdio which supports streams and cleans up some of the uglier things with std.stdio.File, so we may get something out of that at some point, but he has yet to get far enough with it to actually present it for review and possible inclusion in Phobos. However, I haven't heard of any other work being done on streams, and it seems like everyone's simply making do without, for better or worse.

- Jonathan M Davis

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