On 09/11/2015 07:06 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, 11 September 2015 at 20:29:56 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/3631
Apparently it was decided at DConf 2015 to remove std.stream and
friends from Phobos. But these modules have been left untouched (i.e.
they're "stable") for a long time, and there's a lot of D code using
them. This decision seems to go in an opposite direction to other
recent decisions (i.e. that we stop breaking code). Is everyone (incl.
Walter AND Andrei) on board with this?
Walter and Andrei publicly agreed at dconf that it should be removed.
That's right. I remember I said something like "it deserves a burial".
It was on the spur of the moment; after that I figured I should have
better said "Does it prevent anyone from writing good code? It's not in
the documentation, so no new code will use it. Leave it be for now, no
reason to do anything for a while".
After that, as Martin points out, it should go in undead where folks can
continue to use it if they really want to. But I don't think that code
should simply stop compiling within a sixth month period. I'm all for
deprecating and removing stuff that we want to get rid of and really
don't like keeping it around long term, but we need a deprecation cycle
that gives folks time to fix their code, and sadly, a note in the
documentation really doesn't seem to be enough of a warning.
Undead is a great idea at least because it's a good place to park
documentation for legacy code. In fact we should move undead to the
dlang repo (now it's in digitalmars).
Let's let std.stream lay low for a while more, it's really not
preventing anything from happening.
Andrei
