Don wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Don wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

module(safe) is not a comment. We need three types of modules because of the interaction between what the module declares and what the command line wants.

Let's assume the default, no-flag build allows unsafe code, like right now. Then, module(safe) means that the module volunteers itself for tighter checking, and module(system) is same as module unadorned.

But then if the user compiles with -safe, module(safe) is the same as module unadorned, and module(system) allows for unchecked operations in that particular module. I was uncomfortable with this, but Walter convinced me that D's charter is not to allow sandbox compilation and execution of malicious code. If you have the sources, you may as well take a look at their module declarations if you have some worry.

Regardless on the result of the debate regarding the default compilation mode, if the change of that default mode is allowed in the command line, then we need both module(safe) and module(system).

When would it be MANDATORY for a module to be compiled in safe mode?

module(safe) entails safe mode, come hell or high water.

If module(safe) implies bound-checking *cannot* be turned off for that module, would any standard library modules be module(safe)?

I think most or all of the standard library is trusted. But don't forget that std is a bad example of a typical library or program because std interfaces programs with the OS.

This actually seems pretty similar to public/private.
I see three types of modules:

module  : the default, should compile in -safe mode.
module(system) : Modules which need to do nasty stuff inside, but for which all the public functions are safe. module(sysinternal/restricted/...): Modules which exist only to support system modules. This will include most APIs to C libraries.

Modules in the outer ring need to be prevented from calling ones in the inner ring.

Well I wouldn't want to go any dirtier than "system", so my "system" would be your "sysinternal". I'd like to milden "system" a bit like in e.g. "trusted", which would be your "system".

Yeah, the names don't matter. The thing is, modules in the inner ring are extremely rare. I'd hope there'd be just a few in druntime, and no public ones at all in Phobos.

That sounds plausible.


Andrei

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