On Wednesday, 1 June 2016 at 13:57:27 UTC, Joakim wrote:

No, I explicitly said not the web in a subsequent post. The ignorance here of what 2G speeds are like is mind-boggling.

It's not hard. I think a lot of us remember when a 14.4 modem was cutting-edge. Codepages and incompatible encodings were terrible then, too.

Never again.

Well, when you _like_ a ludicrous encoding like UTF-8, not sure your opinion matters.

It _is_ kind of ludicrous, isn't it? But it really is the least-bad option for the most text. Sorry, bub.

No. The common string-handling use case is code that is unaware which script (not language, btw) your text is in.

Lol, this may be the dumbest argument put forth yet.

This just makes it feel like you're trolling. You're not just trolling, right?

I don't think anyone here even understands what a good encoding is and what it's for, which is why there's no point in debating this.

And I don't think you realise how backwards you sound to people who had to live through the character encoding hell of the past. This has been an ongoing headache for the better part of a century (it still comes up in old files, sites, and systems) and you're literally the only person I've ever seen seriously suggest we turn back now that the madness has been somewhat tamed.

If you have to deal with delivering the fastest possible i18n at GSM data rates, well, that's a tough problem and it sounds like you might need to do something pretty special. Turning the entire ecosystem into your special case is not the answer.

-Wyatt

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