On 09/01/2018 01:51 AM, rikki cattermole wrote:

But in saying that, we had third year students starting out not understanding how cli arguments work so...


How I wish that sort of thing surprised me ;)

As part of the generation that grew up with BASIC on 80's home computers, part of my spare time in high school involved some PalmOS development (man I miss PalmOS). Wasn't exactly anything special - you pony up a little $ for Watcom (or was it Borland?), open the IDE, follow the docs, do everything you normally do. Read a book. Yawn. After that, in college, had a job working on Palm and WAP websites (anyone remember those? Bonus points if you remember the Palm version - without WiFi or telephony it was an interesting semi-mobile experience).

Imagine my shock another year after that when I saw the college I was attending bragging how their computer science *graduate* students...with the help and guidance of a professor...had gotten a hello world "running on an actual Palm Pilot!" Wow! Can your grad students also tie their own shoes and wipe their own noses with nothing more than their own wits and somebody else to help them do it??? Because, gee golly, that would be one swell accomplishment! Wow! Hold your hat, Mr. Dean, because Ivy League, here you come!!

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