On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 at 06:42:26 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 19:28:01 UTC, aberba wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 16:09:41 UTC, rjframe wrote:


That's exactly whats happening in Africa. The continent is leapfrogging from nothing to a smart phone thanks to China. Many don'[t know how to even use a PC. Especially the young and upcoming generation.

The smart phone market is really significant.

That's why I'm trying to draw attention to first class ARM support by the D Foundation (not just some voluntary efforts, much as they are appreciated). ARM in dmd wouldn't be a bad idea perhaps, as Manu suggested. It's become more than obvious over the last couple of years that mobile devices have become very important and that people often use them instead of PCs or laptops. Fewer and fewer developers can "escape" development for mobile ("we want an app too"), and if a language doesn't offer first class support for mobile, then devs won't bother with it. A lot of other (new) languages are directing their efforts towards mobile for a reason.

I agree with a lot of what you say here, but I'm not sure what you mean by "first class support for mobile." What exactly do you believe D needs to reach that level?

I think most of the heavy lifting with core language and stdlib support is done. What remains is polish and integration for the build process and possibly IDEs and of course, making sure there are D libraries to make mobile dev easier.

I will be sporadically polishing the build process over the coming months, by getting much more building through dub. I won't be doing anything with IDEs, as I don't use them.

As for libraries, that all depends on what you're doing and how much others in the D community want that too.

It might be a good idea to set up a funding target to get the iOS port back up to speed again. I don't use Apple products so it won't be me picking up that porting work, but maybe Dan could be enticed to finish it as a paid project, since he did most of the voluntary work so far. I'm purely speculating, no idea if money changes the equation for him, just know that he's been too busy to work on it for the last couple years.

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